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Our company decided to buy an airplane, so I am now half care-taker of N111ZX. It's a 1989 201SE. It arrived at it's new home base today, and I almost immediately got started with cross-training. So far, I am really liking the flying characteristics of the Mooney. It's almost a perfect mix of all the things I have liked in every other plane I've flown. 

A couple questions came up, and I'm sure there will be many more to follow.

  1. I'm nearly embarrassed to ask, but where is the tach time recorded? I've looked all over the plane, and can't find it.
  2. The plane has 4 place oxygen, but didn't come with anything to actually get the oxygen from the plane's port to your nose. What should we buy for that?

 

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Congratulations Aaron.

Often people in your shoes will take on a program of Mooney specific training.  It is not about you as you have plenty of training already.

It is about the nuances of the breed.  It is easier to pick up all the key pieces of data quickly.

If you have time to update your avatar info, include the area of the globe you are located in.  Good TTers are mobile and can get to your area.

The O2 stuff isn't Mooney specific...

Somebody mounted my flight timer on the back wall near the batteries and power relays.  Good for pilots that don't want to know that maintenance is coming up on a schedule...:)

Best regards,

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My tach time is recorded odometer-style on the face of the tach. Others have remote read outs in the baggage area. If you have a replacement digital tach, it's buried in there somewhere, push the right button and it should come up. For the right button, read the instructions that should have come with the plane, ask someone else who has the same tach, or try your google-fu.

Mountain high makes great portable oxygen systems, and I've heard good things about the oxy saver cannulae.

The Mooney Aircraft Pilots Assn (MAPA) offers great weekend training seminars that travel around the country. Check them out (www.mooneypilots.com), search for MAPA PPP (Pilot Proficiency Program). Check the MAPA site, here and the Mooney Flyer (www.mooneyflyer.com) for lists of Mooney-specific instructors all over the country. Getting training from someone who knows the idiosyncrasies of the model is a great thing!

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carusoam Grand Master

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http://mooneyspace.com/search/?type=all&q=Oxygen+equipment

you will find so many answers depending on how you intend to fly your plane. Some people will have a preference of mask vs canulas...

The connecting hardware may be specific to your plane.

Scott and Mountain high aviation are brand names that people around here have used.

There are some altitude restrictions to the type of mask or canula you intend to use.

This is PP advice. Not to be confused with a CFI...

Best regard,

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6 hours ago, Hank said:

My tach time is recorded odometer-style on the face of the tach.

This is what I'm used to seeing in planes. 1ZX has the typical smaller mechanical tach without the hour meter on it. I'll look around the baggage area. Thanks!

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There are specific types of O2 connectors....The Mooneys take the Scott type connector.  You'll probably only want nasal cannulas since I doubt you're going above FL 180 in a 20J.  Try to find the Oxymiser or equivalent system...definitely cuts down on the oxygen flow from a straight cannula plugged into the O2 system.

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21 hours ago, AaronDC8402 said:

Our company decided to buy an airplane, so I am now half care-taker of N111ZX. It's a 1989 201SE. It arrived at it's new home base today, and I almost immediately got started with cross-training. So far, I am really liking the flying characteristics of the Mooney. It's almost a perfect mix of all the things I have liked in every other plane I've flown. 

A couple questions came up, and I'm sure there will be many more to follow.

  1. I'm nearly embarrassed to ask, but where is the tach time recorded? I've looked all over the plane, and can't find it.
  2. The plane has 4 place oxygen, but didn't come with anything to actually get the oxygen from the plane's port to your nose. What should we buy for that?

 

Aaron,

I would think the guy who did the PPI would know the location of the hour meter, if he used it to confirm times on the airframe, engine and prop.

We are blessed with 2 of our own flight instructors, Mike and Don, east coast and west coast respectively, they may have to be flushed out, they're a bit shy.

Clarence

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We found the Hobbs meter today. It was on the flat panel around the corner from cowl flaps and wing flaps switches. The mechanic that did the annual (and has done the last few annuals) says there is only a Hobbs meter on this plane. No tach timer. I plan to do some tests to confirm it's not actually showing tach time.

 

I have talked to Mike a few times over the last few months (along with a couple of other MooneySpace-suggested instructors). He was nice enough to spend quite a bit of time talking to me. In an ideal world, I would have done my transition training with a specialist. We needed transition training for two pilots, and it just wasn't feasible right now for us to each get 5hrs training while still making efficient use of an out-of-town instructor. If the plane were more complex than a J model, the decision would have been different. 

 

Ben and I both are feeling right at home in the 201. I think I may be sold on Mooney's for as long as my family fits in one.

 

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Precise flight sells the very best flow meter - there A5.

The Mooney OEM "hour" meter is a tach meter, it's wired off tachometer. You'll find it runs about .2 hrs less than actual elapsed time from engine start to shutdown. It's what you want for maintenance time. But for logging you can use something like a timer on a Garmin GPS that records time from power on - as long as you remember to write it down before you shutdown - or many other methods including your watch.

The problem with Hobbs meter is that it means to many things to different people but usually total elapsed time with oil pressure but sometimes total elapsed time the master is on; both of which typically only have value to rental aircraft.

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They may have converted the step to electric, so no more need for the manual crank. ;)

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7 hours ago, gsxrpilot said:

That's used to retract the step.

Boy, I don't think so. The crank up step was replaced with automatic vacuum step before '66. Where your manual back up gear lowering device? If that's what that is you need to get it fixed.

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8 hours ago, AaronDC8402 said:

A new question came up today. What is this that I have pointed out in the attached picture? It looks like there used to be a crank handle attached to it.

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Oxygen on/off?

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33 minutes ago, Jerry 5TJ said:

Oxygen on/off?

DING! DING! DING!

 

Look around under the seats and in the pax area, you might find the knob. The stinkers have a way of coming loose.

 

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As others mentioned, the manual gear extension is between the front seats. I'm already familiar with that from my cross training. Oxygen makes sense based on proximity to the gage and pilot's O2 connection. Such a wealth of knowledge here. Thanks!

 

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