DonMuncy Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Posted June 17, 2016 52 minutes ago, Kris_Adams said: Hi Don, do you think these will be available relatively soon? My pilot visor cracked about a month ago and I'm looking for options. Thanks! I sent you a PM Quote
n961jk Posted July 18, 2019 Report Posted July 18, 2019 Interested. Have a 76F. let me know what you decide? Quote
M20F-1968 Posted July 19, 2019 Report Posted July 19, 2019 FWIW: I have Rosen visors in my plane. They are big and i thought of cutting them down in the center portion, but decided not to do that because I stow them against the ceiling (along the long axis of the plane) when not in use and when using them they provide more area of sun protection. John Breda Quote
exM20K Posted July 19, 2019 Report Posted July 19, 2019 4 hours ago, M20F-1968 said: FWIW: I have Rosen visors in my plane. They are big and i thought of cutting them down in the center portion, but decided not to do that because I stow them against the ceiling (along the long axis of the plane) when not in use and when using them they provide more area of sun protection. John Breda Similar experience here: initially they felt too big and always in the way, but storing them longitudinally like you do is fine, and especially for blocking the sun coming in the side window, I wouldn't be without them now. -dan 1 Quote
DonMuncy Posted July 19, 2019 Author Report Posted July 19, 2019 I have one set of my visors in stock right now. I have parts on order for more, but it may be several weeks before they arrive. My hardware is very similar to Rosens (at least the ones I have seen). My shades are a little smaller than Rosens, and do what I think is a very good job. As to the F, I am not sure. Mine bolt on the framework on the outside of the windshield. I know they fit Js and above. Look at my albums for photos. Don 1 Quote
Adi Posted December 31, 2020 Report Posted December 31, 2020 Hi Don, Are you still making these? I have a 1983 J model and the stock copilot visor is loose. It seems the plastic tabs that are supposed to hold it in place relative to the metal bar are cracked and not providing enough friction to hold the weight. I think I could probably fix that part but would be happier replacing the set with something sturdier/larger. If you're not making them, perhaps you could advise on what kind of material you used for the visor proper? Adi Quote
DonMuncy Posted December 31, 2020 Author Report Posted December 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Adi said: Hi Don, Are you still making these? I have a 1983 J model and the stock copilot visor is loose. It seems the plastic tabs that are supposed to hold it in place relative to the metal bar are cracked and not providing enough friction to hold the weight. I think I could probably fix that part but would be happier replacing the set with something sturdier/larger. If you're not making them, perhaps you could advise on what kind of material you used for the visor proper? Adi Yes, I am still making them, and have a set in inventory at this time. I am also glad to provide the specifications and materials if someone wants to build their own. 1 Quote
Adi Posted January 1, 2021 Report Posted January 1, 2021 Happy to pay for expertise, will send you a PM. 1 Quote
M20F-1968 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Posted January 1, 2021 On 2/22/2016 at 11:45 AM, DonMuncy said: Only time will tell. This is a continuing problem with any articulating joint. You need enough friction to hold the adjustment and not so much as to preclude adjustment. Maintaining that friction level is touchy. I am a little worried as my design relies on a relatively small area of contact between the "ball" and the hole in the apparatus. Don, I have the Rosens and had difficulty getting the right friction on the side mount screws, until I added some nylon washers. The Nylon has enough give that you can tighten it down, but it will still move. I am thinking that can be done making a seat for the ball in the articulated joint. Tougher to do without a milling machine, but I guess it could be done with a milling machine bolted down to a drill press since you would only be making round holes with say a 90-degree end mill. John Breda Quote
M20F-1968 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Posted January 1, 2021 On 6/15/2016 at 7:58 AM, N601RX said: Don, I would be happy to make any 3D models you need. I also have a 3D printer and can print Prototype parts if you need something to "Lay your Hands on" before machining parts. For clamping force consider some of these under the nut to provide the clamping force. They can be stacked if needed to get the desired load. They will maintain a constant load over time much better than just a bolt/nut. http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-disc-springs/=12v3j66 The washers you point out are Cool. Good to know about. John Breda Quote
M20F-1968 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Posted January 1, 2021 Don, Too bad we don't live closer. We could have some fun doing this kind of stuff. John Breda Quote
DonMuncy Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Posted January 1, 2021 Guys, The above conversations dealt with the alpha version of my visors. I have since redesigned them and use machined articulating joints. And yes, the washers make all the difference. I have used both nylon and fiber washers with good results. 1 Quote
0TreeLemur Posted January 2, 2021 Report Posted January 2, 2021 Recently I bought vintage Mooney visors for our C. They used to be installed as evidenced by holes and signs of the mount on the center post. I want to install them and see if I like them. Questions: what type of screws were used to mount the originals? Stainless steel or brass? Quote
DonMuncy Posted January 2, 2021 Author Report Posted January 2, 2021 I really have no knowledge, but my memory is that the C models had an ordinary steel tube for the center post, and if so, ordinary steel screws should not make a difference. However, it would seem that brass or stainless would not hurt either. Quote
smwash02 Posted January 18, 2021 Report Posted January 18, 2021 I ordered a couple sets from Don and got them set up this past weekend and they look great! I have the LASAR mounting hardware so Don made me a set without the holes drilled. I clamped the old and new together to get the holes in the same location. 3 Quote
DonMuncy Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Posted January 18, 2021 They look good, if I do say so myself. 5 1 Quote
201Steve Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 3:48 AM, Adi said: t seems the plastic tabs that are supposed to hold it in place relative to the metal bar are cracked and not providing enough friction to hold the weight Mine were replaced with a home made solution. Not mine, but it’s stupid simple and works good. I think the dude cut a couple strips of plastic off a milk jug (being dramatic). Let me know if problem still persists I can send pics. Quote
Schllc Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 For $26 you can get a roll of static cling tint that is enough to cover every window in the plane. I cut a few pieces 12x18 and move them around to follow the sun, or fold up in a side pocket when not needed. much less bulky, easy to see through and works great. I even applied like regular tint to the rear windows, which is legal because it can easily be peeled off at any point. Quote
DonMuncy Posted January 19, 2021 Author Report Posted January 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Niko182 said: how much are these? I get $140 per set for the visors (with hardware), and $20 per pair for just the shades, plus shipping. Shipping is running less than $15. Quote
Releew Posted January 26, 2021 Report Posted January 26, 2021 Just an FYI. I used a CNC Router to cut out a few pair. I found using Optical Quality Lexan made a huge difference in the clarity. Yes... it was about 50% more expensive but worth it. I also oversized each visor by a full 1" around the entire perimeter. Dubro (RC Plane Stuff) wire mounts were used to secure the visors to the existing mounts. The material edges after cutting were sanded with 220 Grit Wet sandpaper then Flame polished clear. Came out GREAT! Rick Quote
Niko182 Posted January 26, 2021 Report Posted January 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Releew said: Just an FYI. I used a CNC Router to cut out a few pair. I found using Optical Quality Lexan made a huge difference in the clarity. Yes... it was about 50% more expensive but worth it. I also oversized each visor by a full 1" around the entire perimeter. Dubro (RC Plane Stuff) wire mounts were used to secure the visors to the existing mounts. The material edges after cutting were sanded with 220 Grit Wet sandpaper then Flame polished clear. Came out GREAT! Rick Pictures? Quote
Releew Posted February 8, 2021 Report Posted February 8, 2021 Sorry for the delay. If you need more info, PM me. Rick Quote
lithium366 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 Just got my set if visors from Don installed! Looks great, can’t be happier! 1 Quote
A64Pilot Posted April 24, 2021 Report Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) Ref the flame polishing, a very similar result can be obtained by using a Dremel with a cloth wheel and plastic polish. We had to cut notches in the visors of the IHADDS helmets for the HDU to fit, and as everyone is different they couldn’t be pre-made. So to polish the edge of the helmet visor a Dremel with a cloth wheel and plastic polish was used, it quickly polished just as clear and smooth as the factory edge. ‘The articulating joint of anyone’s design that is right at the point were the visor connects to the airframe will always be a problem area as it’s very highly loaded as the whole weight of the visor hangs on it and to keep it from moving it’s going to have to be very tight. ‘I stripped mine out on one side, as it’s aluminum I believe that a steel threaded insert would make it much stronger, but as I didn’t have a 10/32 kit. I just used a pan head screw and a self locking nut on the other side. ‘It really doesn’t look bad at all, and as the nut is on the backside, it’s out of view and now the limit in tightening will be the strength of the SS 10/32 screw, and even if you break it, it will be very easy to replace Edited April 24, 2021 by A64Pilot 2 Quote
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