Heat in the Back??

[mooniac15u]

I finally decided I needed a new door seal when I looked over at my wife sleeping with her head against the door and I could see her hair outside the back window.

[Guitarmaster]

I was thinking of taping some cling wrap to the door frame and putting a bead or silicone around the door then closing it until it sets.  Does anyone have any experience or feedback on this sort of solution?  I don't want to put anything in there that will put more pressure on the hinges or latch.

 

What I've been doing in the meantime is after I get in cruise, putting some charts up up against the edge of the door frame and letting the vacuum suck the paper up and stick it to the door.   It's kind of funny flying along with papers stuck up to the door frame.

An interesting idea for sure!

 

Charts?  What the heck are those?     Maybe Ill try putting my iPad up against the door.  

[Marauder]

Or you could just buy an inflatable door seal... I have the Fields manual one. Works great.

[Guest]

It brings a tear to my eye when I see you Cheap Bast$&ds at your finest.

Wouldn't that be CB/ Honors? A much higher degree attained after years of study.

Clarence

[fantom]

Wouldn't that be CB/ Honors? A much higher degree attained after years of study.

You would think so, but no.

CBitis is in the genes and in very rare instances it may get a bit watered down, but no matter what ones station in life, it never goes away. No study required to hone CB skills either.

[Guitarmaster]

Or you could just buy an inflatable door seal... I have the Fields manual one. Works great.

 

but doesn't that defeat the "cheap bastard" status??  

[Marauder]

but doesn't that defeat the "cheap bastard" status??

Indeed it does my friend... Sometimes I fall off of the wagon. Oh wait, I didn't install mine, I'm okay!

[Andy95W]

Or you could just buy an inflatable door seal... I have the Fields manual one. Works great.

Had one in my last airplane (previous owner installed). Worked so well in reducing noise I'm actually considering buying one.

To keep my membership in the CB club, I will try Jose's $4.99 Home Depot seal first, however.

[blaine beaven]

Hi, I just bought a '78J and I am flying it up in Canada. Coming home last night at 4500' it was -20C. I was still comfortable with a toque on but without parka, gloves or boots.

 

Today I was moving some stuff in the rear baggage area and noticed that there are the little gills on the outside of the plane that correspond to little holes in my interior. I realize this is some kind of vent to get air moving through the cabin.

 

I am considering taping these off to keep the cabin warmer. I would use tin tape, both from the outside and the inside. Any thoughts, or has anyone done this before?

 

Thanks!

[Bob_Belville]

I suspect you will do better to leave those exhaust ports open to allow heated air to come in from the front. In my old E those ports are at the floor on both sides behind the rear seat.

[carusoam]

Welcome aboard Blaine...

-20F is cold in NJ. We have the opportunity to review all the things that let air in and out of the cabin.

Some are more obvious than others...

Some are easier to change out than others...

In the end, you can find solutions to make things work...

Door seals can be replaced...

Boots around control linkages age and can be replaced.

All air supply hoses can be changed.

The heater system can be reviewed for proper operation.

Vents at the ceiling may be leaking.

Are you handy?

Best regards,

-a-

[aaronk25]

Check windows on outside see if the sealant is still sealing. A lot of older planes have loose windows, which will create cold drafts.

Might be possible to tape off window and paint and lightly space open the window from frame with small flat head screw driver with electrical tape or something around it so it doesn't mar the window. Then lightly smear some tank sealant in the void.

Someone might be able to offer a better process.

Make sure you got a good door seals on main and baggage.

Check the scat tubes in cowl, particularly where they bend and on the back sides that aren't easily viewed. If it had a tear from fatigue it will greatly reduce heat.

[aaronk25]

Found the cold leak in mine....when you remove the access panel for the battery, ect right to the left where the power wires nav ect go though the bulk head make sure the remainder of the 4" opening not filled with passing by wires has something stufferd in it....such as electrical puddy or insulation.

If the cold air doesn't blow in to the baggage area via the separation in the carpet paneling between the left side of the fueselodge and rear baggage carpet it will blow forward behind the plastic side panels dumping out right on the left side of the rear pax between the side of the seat and the plastic or just evenly cool the left hand side..

Not sure why there is positive airpressure in the tail but I'd say the amount of air coming through the 1-2" hole is 25% of the total cabin heat.

[cliffy]

Just posted a way to stop cold air from the baggage area with a foam plug between the rear seat and the headliner. Works great!