Last mile(s) transportation - OneWheel

[MikeOH]

21 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said:

https://alienrides.com/products/begode-mten-mini-electric-unicycle?srsltid=AfmBOopU6VDsWTvKQxMHpQIqNDxDc6-DCT5CNaIyZlJCkbMz42xCenq-

Hmm, might want to check your life insurance policy to see if you're even covered while riding one of these; think of your children

[N201MKTurbo]

Just now, MikeOH said:

Hmm, might want to check your life insurance policy to see if you're even covered while riding one of these; think of your children

I have ridden that one. I'm not very good at it, but I have about 5 min of experience. It is like flying a helicopter. After a few hours, you start to get the hang of it.

[MikeOH]

Oh, and their high end model, https://alienrides.com/products/begode-et-max-electric-unicycle?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9b0788114&pr_rec_pid=8225814675710&pr_ref_pid=8159500009726&pr_seq=uniform

claims a top speed of 180 kph (112 mph!!!!)...what could possibly go wrong?

[MikeOH]

Just now, N201MKTurbo said:

I have ridden that one. I'm not very good at it, but I have about 5 min of experience. It is like flying a helicopter. After a few hours, you start to get the hang of it.

If you live that long!

[N201MKTurbo]

2 minutes ago, MikeOH said:

Hmm, might want to check your life insurance policy to see if you're even covered while riding one of these; think of your children

My, children are well taken care of. Most of my investments aren't going to pay off till I'm dead or too old to enjoy it, so they are getting more than they deserve already.

[N201MKTurbo]

2 minutes ago, MikeOH said:

Oh, and their high end model, https://alienrides.com/products/begode-et-max-electric-unicycle?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9b0788114&pr_rec_pid=8225814675710&pr_ref_pid=8159500009726&pr_seq=uniform

claims a top speed of 180 kph (112 mph!!!!)...what could possibly go wrong?

Have you heard of self control? My motorcycle will go 170, but I don't drive it that fast.

[MikeOH]

3 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said:

Have you heard of self control? My motorcycle will go 170, but I don't drive it that fast.

Apparently only you and I

A quick Google shows a helluva lot of injuries, many quite serious (as in dead), with these 'electric skateboards'.

Look, you do you; I'm just suggesting that the safety/convenience trade-off with these things is pretty poor.  I.e., since I rarely use the backseats, putting the folding bikes in the back seats isn't really that big of deal vs. the much greater risk of injury with an 'electric skateboard'.

[GeeBee]

Uber, or a 100 bucks for the line boy's car. Both work.

 

[N201MKTurbo]

7 minutes ago, MikeOH said:

Apparently only you and I

A quick Google shows a helluva lot of injuries, many quite serious (as in dead), with these 'electric skateboards'.

Look, you do you; I'm just suggesting that the safety/convenience trade-off with these things is pretty poor.  I.e., since I rarely use the backseats, putting the folding bikes in the back seats isn't really that big of deal vs. the much greater risk of injury with an 'electric skateboard'.

According to my One Wheel app, the fastest I have ever gone is 18 MPH. That is too fast most of the time.

[802flyer]

I have a Onewheel GT and while I really enjoy tooling around on it, I’m not sure it’s an effective last mile solution. I bring it on plenty of flights to bike-friendly cities for the purpose of adventuring around the bike paths to find a $100 hamburger. It’s great fun when it’s part of the mission.

But if I’m actually trying to get somewhere, I usually grab the crew car or shell out for the Uber. It turns out that 15-20mph is not a quick way to get anywhere, and riding down a busy road with fast cars is not where I find joy on the Onewheel.

As far as the safety side of things, I’ve ridden somewhere between 100-200miles on various OneWheels and it just takes practice and a bit of restraint to keep upright on it. The one time I crashed, I was purposefully pushing the limits and can’t really blame the device. Since they added the “haptic buzz” feature, I’m much more confident in staying within the limits.


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[Oliver]

People keep mentioning Uber, Lyft, crew cars or even the line boy's personal vehicle.

These services tend to be available only in larger cities. Great, if that's where somebody wants to go. The VAST majority of airports in the US however doesn't have any of that. Some have crew cars but even then there is always the risk that somebody else snatches it up just before you get there. Not great if your entire plan for the weekend depends on it. My wife and I once spent a night in the plane, because the crew car was gone when we arrived at 10 pm and there was no taxi service or anything else available to get us into town, which was several miles away.

Most small airports are between 1 and 5 miles out of town. I think a folding bike (if it fits) or a OneWheel (for us short body Mooney owners) are a good way to cover such distances. I certainly prefer an uncomfortable ride over a loooong walk. 

Somebody also asked about e-scooters: That's what we originally wanted to get, they are however all more than 40" long, whereas our baggage compartment is only about 36" wide. We probably could have somehow made it work but they would have then taken up a lot of space.

[FlyingDude]

Is there an stc to expand the luggage compartment aftward? There is some usable space if one removes the sidestep. I think it'll be easier to fit 1 or 2 foldable bikes in that case, even if the "hole" will have to clear the battery.

 

[Andy95W]

The only STC I’ve ever heard of was for a ski-tube that extends behind the hat rack.  LASAR either has it or knows about it.

[MikeOH]

2 hours ago, FlyingDude said:

Is there an stc to expand the luggage compartment aftward? There is some usable space if one removes the sidestep. I think it'll be easier to fit 1 or 2 foldable bikes in that case, even if the "hole" will have to clear the battery.

 

Hmm,...that would make me nervous; there's a good reason the hat shelf is limited to only 10 pounds!

[FlyingDude]

11 hours ago, MikeOH said:

hat shelf is limited to only 10 pounds!

Because it's not secured (no tie down or door) and whatever's there will become a projectile in case of a crash.

[MikeOH]

5 hours ago, FlyingDude said:

Because it's not secured (no tie down or door) and whatever's there will become a projectile in case of a crash.

Do you have a cite for that? I had always thought it was a weight & balance concern, but I can't prove that, either.

However, I'm not all that sure that even a 1 pound projectile hitting me in the back of the head in case of a crash would be ok So, sorry, but your argument is not persuasive.

[FlyingDude]

3 hours ago, MikeOH said:

1 pound projectile hitting me in the back

Of course if you are keeping your 9.9lb toolbox in there, you pretty much deserved it.  I keep soft stuff, like roll of paper shop towels, head pillows, beach towels, etc.  So, yea, those objects hitting me would be the least of my problems in a crash.

I also keep a box of AA and AAA batteries, but the boxes are thinner than the height of ledge, so I am wishfully assuming that they would be secured in a rapid deceleration.

[MikeOH]

1 minute ago, FlyingDude said:

Of course if you are keeping your 9.9lb toolbox in there, you pretty much deserved it.  I keep soft stuff, like roll of paper shop towels, head pillows, beach towels, etc.  So, yea, those objects hitting me would be the least of my problems in a crash.

I also keep a box of AA and AAA batteries, but the boxes are thinner than the height of ledge, so I am wishfully assuming that they would be secured in a rapid deceleration.

I said, "1 pound" not 9.9 lb.  So, do I still "deserve it"?

SHEESH!  If that was the real reason for the 10 pound limit then I would hope the POH would have a warning, "ONLY soft stuff, like hats, are permitted on the hat rack"

Fact is, neither one of us can cite proof of reason for the 10 pound limit.

[FlyingDude]

Thanks for reminding me to check the POH

OK, maybe "you had it coming" is a better translation of what I wanted to say than "you deserved it." But still. Don't put your tools there.  Not even a screwdriver. 

[MikeOH]

RUH OH!

I'm doomed...I've got items there that are definitely not soft!

We still don't know why the 10 pound limit, however.

[FlyingDude]

3 minutes ago, MikeOH said:

We still don't know

We do. Any higher number, and people would put things that would hurt them. And 10 is a round number.

 

[MikeOH]

Just now, FlyingDude said:

We do. Any higher number, and people would put things that would hurt them. And 10 is a round number.

 

NO, we do NOT know.

You and I have different OPINIONS as to why the 10 pound limit.  I maintain it's a CG issue; too much weight too far back. And you believe it's related to safety of what hits you in the back of the head.

Neither one of us has any proof.

[FlyingDude]

There's an stc to put skis that far back. Some mooneys require ballast at the empennage hinge. I really don't think it's a cg issue. The floor of the hat rack is not truly robust, from how I see it but did they really test it for the max g forces? Who knows.  However they did care to mention the soft loads. That's proof enough into what they were thinking. 

[MikeOH]

In attempt to continue to beat a dead horse that has long been obliterated...

Yes, the ski-tube thing is how our debate got started.  But think about where the CG of a pair of skii's resides...about midpoint where the bindings are.  It's a length problem, the CG is going to act in the baggage area, not back in the tail cone where it would cause a W&B issue.  My concern with removing the back panel and extending the baggage area was that it would allow the CG to shift aft.

Mentioning soft loads in the POH hardly equates to ANY level of proof of your contention that that is the basis for the 10 pound limit, let alone what someone 'was thinking'.

Anyway, to the great relief of most readers, I'm done here

[FlyingDude]

8 minutes ago, MikeOH said:

Anyway, to the great relief of most readers, I'm done here

You can't! We just started!