201er Posted February 22, 2023 Report Posted February 22, 2023 Finally managed to get 201 out of my M20J 4 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted February 22, 2023 Report Posted February 22, 2023 Gotta love those tail winds..How was the ride? Quote
201er Posted February 22, 2023 Author Report Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 2:14 AM, ArtVandelay said: Gotta love those tail winds..How was the ride? Expand Actually was on Sunday but also pretty breezy. Light chop and occasional turbulence climbing over mountains out of Roanoke. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N4361H/history/20230219/2041Z/KROA/KLDJ Quote
mooniac15u Posted February 22, 2023 Report Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 1:40 AM, 201er said: Finally managed to get 201 out of my M20J Expand Wasn't it 201 mph rather than knots that inspired the name? 1 Quote
Hank Posted February 22, 2023 Report Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 5:59 PM, mooniac15u said: Wasn't it 201 mph rather than knots that inspired the name? Expand Yes it was. MPH to Knots happened later. The claim was "the first production piston single to reach 200 mph with only 200 hp!" [I think] 2 Quote
201er Posted February 22, 2023 Author Report Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 5:59 PM, mooniac15u said: Wasn't it 201 mph rather than knots that inspired the name? Expand But that’s only 175 knots! I can get pretty close to that any day! Quote
Hank Posted February 22, 2023 Report Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 6:51 PM, 201er said: But that’s only 175 knots! I can get pretty close to that any day! Expand KTAS? Tailwind doesn't count. I've had groundspeed of 186 knots in level cruise my C, and been 200+ in descent. Easy peasy! Quote
201er Posted February 22, 2023 Author Report Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 8:09 PM, Hank said: KTAS? Tailwind doesn't count. I've had groundspeed of 186 knots in level cruise my C, and been 200+ in descent. Easy peasy! Expand With all the mods/improvements I have done, I can make about 170KTAS (based on ASI which I have found to be fairly accurate) at full power. This isn’t quite full power but nor is it full weight either. 2 Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 Have you raced against Becca and Byron yet? Quote
201er Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 12:15 AM, KSMooniac said: Have you raced against Becca and Byron yet? Expand No, but @jetdriven might admit my bird’s in better shape 1 Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 I saw a recent pic of their plane that resembled a spaghetti accident. Quote
201er Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 12:55 AM, KSMooniac said: I saw a recent pic of their plane that resembled a spaghetti accident. Expand He doesn’t want to get my rigging perfect because he’s afraid my 201 might be 201er than his. 1 1 Quote
Fly Boomer Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 11:10 PM, 201er said: With all the mods/improvements I have done, I can make about 170KTAS Expand That's impressive! What improvements? Quote
hais Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 1:40 AM, 201er said: Finally managed to get 201 out of my M20J Expand I'll accuse you of deliberately slowing down to hit the 201 1 Quote
Guest Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 6:00 PM, Hank said: Yes it was. MPH to Knots happened later. The claim was "the first production piston single to reach 200 mph with only 200 hp!" [I think] Expand A real downgrade from the Mite, which is supposed to go 125MPH on only 65 HP. Quote
201er Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 1:26 AM, Fly Boomer said: That's impressive! What improvements? Expand Composite gear doors, new[er] cowl, remove unused antennas/equipment, door pin mod, gap seals, body work and A pillar smoothing, windshield fairing replacement, repaint, wash, and wax. Quote
Fly Boomer Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 1:40 AM, M20Doc said: A real downgrade from the Mite, which is supposed to go 125MPH on only 65 HP. Expand How many HP would it take to go 400 MPH? Quote
Fly Boomer Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 1:46 AM, 201er said: Composite gear doors, new[er] cowl, remove unused antennas/equipment, door pin mod, gap seals, body work and A pillar smoothing, windshield fairing replacement, repaint, wash, and wax. Expand Some of those I understand, but I don't know others. I'll have to fire up Google. Quote
201er Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 1:51 AM, Fly Boomer said: How many HP would it take to go 400 MPH? Expand TBM 900 claims top speed of 380mph on 850HP Quote
Fly Boomer Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 2:08 AM, 201er said: TBM 900 claims top speed of 380mph on 850HP Expand So, not very linear. 1 Quote
jetdriven Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 12:55 AM, KSMooniac said: I saw a recent pic of their plane that resembled a spaghetti accident. Expand Oh it's far worse 1 Quote
Hank Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 1:51 AM, Fly Boomer said: How many HP would it take to go 400 MPH? Expand More than a Comanche 400 has . . . . . Sorry, Doc! Quote
EricJ Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 2:11 AM, Fly Boomer said: So, not very linear. Expand The power required to overcome aerodynamic drag goes up with the square of the speed. So, yes, not linear. Quote
Pinecone Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 2:11 AM, Fly Boomer said: So, not very linear. Expand Nope, square function. Basically, you need 4 times the power to double the speed as a start. This is why drag reduction is a much easier way to go fast. Quote
JayMatt Posted February 23, 2023 Report Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 11:10 PM, 201er said: With all the mods/improvements I have done, I can make about 170KTAS (based on ASI which I have found to be fairly accurate) at full power. This isn’t quite full power but nor is it full weight either. Expand What in the tarnation are you doing to get that fast?!? I can't get anywhere near that and I have the exact same plane? Is there something wrong with my plane? Flat level no cheating at the optimal elevation I can squeeze 160 kts about. Granted I've never been taught how to properly speed manage a money and have learned from figuring it out, still I don't feel like there is anywhere in the rpm prop combo that could get me to 170kts Quote
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