alextstone Posted July 25, 2020 Report Posted July 25, 2020 The FlyGarmin.com AP is down and it has been for more than a day now. If you are counting on a database update before your next flight, you may be SOL... Here's a link to the status updates: FlyGarmin Status Updates So, if I remember correctly, a GPS with an expired database may be used for enroute IFR as long as there is a cross reference to a current set of charts but MAY NOT be legally used for navigation for instrument approaches. CFI's in the group, is this correct? Side question: in the case of the Garmin GTN 650 / 750, does anyone know what time period after the database expires these GPS's will still load an approach? Academically speaking, of course. Alex Quote
toto Posted July 25, 2020 Report Posted July 25, 2020 Yeah, they are fighting a ransomware attack. https://mooneyspace.com/topic/35157-whoops-ransomware-at-garmin/ My understanding is that the AFMS controls your discretion in this area. I believe that all current Garmin navigators require a current navdata database to be used under IFR. I'm not aware of a GTN cutoff date for loading approaches. The GTN units will stop displaying chart images after a period of time, but you can still load an approach for training under VFR as long as it's in the database. ETA: Here's my AFMS guidance about navdata, and the expiration chart from the pilot manual. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted July 25, 2020 Report Posted July 25, 2020 Next GTN update isn’t until late August IIRC, so plenty of time. Quote
Marauder Posted July 25, 2020 Report Posted July 25, 2020 For those of you using their fitness app and hardware, I am experiencing issues with connectivity between their hardware and the Connect app. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Quote
carusoam Posted July 25, 2020 Report Posted July 25, 2020 Sounds like WingX could make a viable independent back-up to your big G database challenge... The most simple level costs about $1.... A full on database with IFR procedures costs a few dollars more... Putting the blue dot on your IFR plates is even more costly... Something to keep in mind if your iPad app is also affected by the Big G ransomeware attack... PP thoughts only, not a CFI... Best regards, -a- Quote
ArtVandelay Posted July 25, 2020 Report Posted July 25, 2020 I was able to sync my log entries and login. Quote
Andy95W Posted July 25, 2020 Report Posted July 25, 2020 8 hours ago, alextstone said: Side question: in the case of the Garmin GTN 650 / 750, does anyone know what time period after the database expires these GPS's will still load an approach? Academically speaking, of course. I just saw a Garmin webinar about database updates two days ago (part of the whole "Spirit of Aviation" week done by EAA in lieu of Airventure). The Garmin webinar said all navigation data is unreachable after 180 days. 1 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted July 26, 2020 Report Posted July 26, 2020 I successfully downloaded nav data and updated my GPS navigator today. Avidyne Too soon?? 2 5 Quote
Marauder Posted July 26, 2020 Report Posted July 26, 2020 I successfully downloaded nav data and updated my GPS navigator today. Avidyne Too soon?? Just wait until Peter Garmin catches wind of this! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 3 Quote
McMooney Posted July 26, 2020 Report Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) Fly garmin worked just fine for me today. updated 2 tablets a phone and my gdl39. Connect remains down, which is really pissing off the wife. seriously, i never knew how much she liked that app. Garmin, if you know what's good, you'll prioritize Connect. Edited July 26, 2020 by McMooney Quote
toto Posted July 26, 2020 Report Posted July 26, 2020 The last update I saw from Garmin suggested that things are mostly working now on the aviation side.. Quote
wishboneash Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 July 27, 2020 morning update:https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/garmin-web-based-utilities-down-after-suspected-attack/ Quote
toto Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 I got a status update this morning that fly.garmin and pilot data services were down again at about 9:15ET, then back up about 10:30. I suspect they now have mitigation in place and are switching back to primary production. Quote
toto Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 Garmin just declared the incident resolved... Quote
carusoam Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 They made the business news on CNBC this morning... as they announced things to be back in order... Best regards, -a- Quote
Marauder Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 They made the business news on CNBC this morning... as they announced things to be back in order... Best regards, -a- Maybe the aviation portion is, but I question the rest is...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote
toto Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 Just now, Marauder said: Maybe the aviation portion Yeah the status thing I posted above was purely for aviation services. Quote
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