carusoam Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 This could be an interesting improvement over hand copying some really long clearance... But, Does it work...? Best regards, -a- ”Stratus Insight boasts a custom aviation speech recognition system. When paired with a Stratus Audio Cable, the ATC Radio Transcription feature works similar to visual voicemail. ATC communications are converted into text and displayed directly above the audio playback line, providing a helpful visual assist for referencing previous audio clips. This enables pilots to receive a clearance, ATIS, or other important ATC communications without needing to write them down.” - Appareo
aviatoreb Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Rwsavory said: A new competitor to Foreflight, etc. They bought the Aerovie app and added an ATC transcription feature: https://www.appareo.com/2020/03/31/appareo-releases-new-efb-stratus-insight/ Meh. I was more excited when someone said they would buy the Mooney factory. Or at least come out with a new cheaper nav-com gps unit. Or yet another digital autopilot entry. But a corporate buy of an already existing app? Yawn city.
Hector Posted April 1, 2020 Author Report Posted April 1, 2020 This could be an interesting improvement over hand copying some really long clearance... But, Does it work...? Best regards, -a- ”Stratus Insight boasts a custom aviation speech recognition system. When paired with a Stratus Audio Cable, the ATC Radio Transcription feature works similar to visual voicemail. ATC communications are converted into text and displayed directly above the audio playback line, providing a helpful visual assist for referencing previous audio clips. This enables pilots to receive a clearance, ATIS, or other important ATC communications without needing to write them down.” - Appareo I tried it this past weekend. I have the Stratus Horizon Pro App and they just added the transcription capability to that app for a monthly fee of $4 and change. Thought I would give it a shot while riding shotgun in my friends C-172 so I could play with it. First impression the transcription was not great. Now, I will say my friend’s radios are not the best but they are clear enough and it just struggled to transcribe correctly. However, it also records the actual voice transmissions so you can quickly replay any previous transmission. I’m going to give it another shot this weekend in my Mooney and see if it does any better. I had it running on my iPhone. I ordered the cable which has a 3.5mm jack to plug into the phone but failed to realize my iPhone does not have a 3.5 mm jack. Had to buy a separate lightning to 3.5 mm jack adapter at Target. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1
ArtVandelay Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 Replaying a transmission isn’t very helpful as you have to do a read back, which they expect immediately after? I have this with PS 450a and rarely use it. 1
midlifeflyer Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: Replaying a transmission isn’t very helpful as you have to do a read back, which they expect immediately after? I have this with PS 450a and rarely use it. I think those features are mostly for those of us who, sort of like a court reporter, hears and repeats the words without actually processing. I haven't had to use it in the airplanes I fly, but I am just number challenged enough that I can read back a frequency and mess up the sequence between my ears and my fingers. 2
rbridges Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 13 hours ago, McMooney said: too bad it's not on android i'd try it out, I have a stratus in my plane I never use. I have a Droid and foreflight, and I do wish the foreflight would work on it.
LANCECASPER Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 I would never buy anything from Appareo. They had known issues with the power receptacle on the Stratus 2 and denied it. No one's perfect but if you make a mistake, own it and do what's right. 1
aviatoreb Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 Im thinking of how well (poorly) Siri works on my iPhone. It is laughable how far from what I actually said it sometimes transcribes what I said. Now imagine that versus over a scratchy radio instead of over an iPhone unobstructed audio while sitting on your coach. That said, it is plausible to make a better software purpose built for aviation since one thing that makes aviation on radio not that bad despite high signal to noise ratio environment is that the number of different things one might say in aviation speak is deliberately held to be low. In other words the entropy rate can't be that high when the snr is low, but the entropy demand rate in aviation signaling is low.' Still - I doubt the Apparo software dictation will work adequately well. I think it is criminal that we are still talking to each other on the radio. Why hasn't the Faa made a more modern system. I mean just type the command out and send it straight to my radio - I mean we have texting on my phone for over a decade. Why can't the FAA figure out how to do the same thing?! Send me the commands digitally straight to a specialized receiver unit that we install in the airplane. Digital information over audio voice is so 1930s tech. Now we might say it would be slow and a pain for the controller. I bet a specialized keyboard (soft keys on a screen) could be designed nd special training to really make it faster than speaking. And certainly more accurate on transmission. There would be a key for typical words. Climb gets a key. and maintain gets a single key. Intercept gets a key. Typical way points in the region that a specific controller monitors get specific keys. Eg. Around here we have waypoints like isica, bugsy, mss, and so on. All special keys. But if something needs to be said without a specific key dedicated there would still be the possibility to type on a querty keyboard. And all else fails, the controller can still speak. SO I would think a modern system would be like this. ATC: Mooney N314EB be ready to receive digital flight command, commands sent. Me: Mooney N314EB ready to revive. ATC reads aloud the commands consisting of waypoints, and climb instructions. E.g. N314EB intercept Isaca at or above 3500, then climb and maintain 7000 before passing MSS, .... and so on. Which is him/her simply reading what was just texted to me and I am reading it while he/she reads it. Mooney N314EB - Then I read back what he/she said. ATC. Then I push a lot of that textual information directly to my GPS navigator without ever needing to type or learn how to spell silly and cute waypoints. I mean hey you folks in San Jose - I see there is a waypoint moony. Or who here in the NY region has had a hard time spelling the waypoint spelled Mooni just north of Danbury CT when ATC throws that one in your flight plan - I have. New York Center, Mooney N314EB I can't spell Mooni or find it in my database - would you spell that for me please?
markgrue Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, rbridges said: I have a Droid and foreflight, and I do wish the foreflight would work on it. I use Droid EFB and I am pretty satisfied with it. I am saving up for the Stratus 3I so I can get adsb in on it. Mark
EricJ Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, markgrue said: I use Droid EFB and I am pretty satisfied with it. I am saving up for the Stratus 3I so I can get adsb in on it. Mark Stratux works with Droid EFB, and they're relatively inexpensive.http://stratux.me/#efb-compatibility 1
carusoam Posted April 1, 2020 Report Posted April 1, 2020 While we’re discussing Siri’s skills... She has misspelled one of Erik’s words without him recognizing it... Ready to ‘revive’ in place of ‘receive’... On the plus side... I spelled receive correctly with her help... If Appareo can get this av-speech thing correct... that will be great for the IR flight... A big challenge for some IR pilots... recognizing the last transmission is for you... Ever get that... was that instruction for me, Feeling? Best regards, -a-
aviatoreb Posted April 2, 2020 Report Posted April 2, 2020 8 hours ago, carusoam said: While we’re discussing Siri’s skills... She has misspelled one of Erik’s words without him recognizing it... Ah...sometimes I misspell all on my own! And sometimes I spell almost right and then my dumb auto(mis)spell "corrects" it to me to something silly and I don't notice. 1
Hank Posted April 2, 2020 Report Posted April 2, 2020 10 hours ago, aviatoreb said: Ah...sometimes I misspell all on my own! And sometimes I spell almost right and then my dumb auto(mis)spell "corrects" it to me to something silly and I don't notice. That's why I quickly disabled that "feature" on my Samsung Galaxy, but I was unable to do so on three different company-provided iPhones (4, 5, 7). Who needs to actually send the words they wrote, when your phone knows better? <droid users raise hands!>
aviatoreb Posted April 2, 2020 Report Posted April 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hank said: That's why I quickly disabled that "feature" on my Samsung Galaxy, but I was unable to do so on three different company-provided iPhones (4, 5, 7). Who needs to actually send the words they wrote, when your phone knows better? <droid users raise hands!> Whats especially annoying is not just when I misspell and it spells it for me but to something else silly, but when I spell correctly something that it is not expecting - and then I end up retyping it more than once trying to beat the auto spell because it just doesn't want me to say what I want to say.
Hank Posted April 2, 2020 Report Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, aviatoreb said: Whats especially annoying is not just when I misspell and it spells it for me but to something else silly, but when I spell correctly something that it is not expecting - and then I end up retyping it more than once trying to beat the auto spell because it just doesn't want me to say what I want to say. That is why I disabled the Spelling Changer on my Galaxy. Apple doesn't want you to be able to do so. Try turning off the location on your apple. It's about 5 screens deep into Settings. On my Galaxy, it's right beside the buttons for Wifi, bluetooth and Airplane mode . . . You can only do things that apple wants you to do, and you can only do them in their approved manner. Apparently many people enjoy doing only as they are permitted . . . . . 1
Hank Posted April 2, 2020 Report Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, aviatoreb said: Whats especially annoying is not just when I misspell and it spells it for me but to something else silly, but when I spell correctly something that it is not expecting - and then I end up retyping it more than once trying to beat the auto spell because it just doesn't want me to say what I want to say. Especially annoying is when you spell something correctly and it's on the screen. Then hit "send" and apple changes it to what they want you to say. Then you get to try to resend it a couple of times. Annoying as all get out! Good luck disabling it. If you find out how, share the method with your friends, you'll find out you have more than you thought. 1
Oldguy Posted April 2, 2020 Report Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Hank said: Especially annoying is when you spell something correctly and it's on the screen. Then hit "send" and apple changes it to what they want you to say. Then you get to try to resend it a couple of times. Annoying as all get out! Good luck disabling it. If you find out how, share the method with your friends, you'll find out you have more than you thought. Best thing to do to even attempt to "fix" this problem on an iDevice is Settings=>General=>Keyboard. Under All Keyboards, turn off the slider for Auto-Correction. Under English (for those of us so afflicted) turn off the slider for Check Spelling. Gets you closer to being able to type what you actually want to type.
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