New Aspen E5 - In-Flight Crash and Reset

[Yetti]

On 12/31/2019 at 9:26 AM, Marauder said:

 

Redundancy is a big deal for me. Ironic since I flew for years without a backup AI. I guess as you get older, the young stupid stuff goes away.

My original choice of going with the Aspens back in 2012 was redundancy. The G500 at that time didn’t have a battery backup and there was no reversion capability. When I had my panel updated in 2017, I had an ESI-500 installed as backup to the Aspens for both AI and Nav capability. Expensive unit, but everything you need is in the little box.



I’m on a quest to see if I can get a backup alternator installed on my now vacant vacuum pad. B&C have been helpful (as has Rob T) on looking at the feasibility of installing one. I was hoping a number of you who have dropped your vacuum system would consider it as an option. It’s cool the Aspens, Garmin G-5 and the ESI-500 all have battery backups. But when it comes to an electrical failure, everything depends on the plane’s battery.


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The Dynon EFIS-D10A is the back up to the Dynon Skyview. https://www.dynonavionics.com/efis-d10a.php  $2200 and the STC is through the EAA.   In the Skyview installation Just power, pitot, and static are install and it has a 30 or 45 minute battery. So electrically isolated.  Interesting enough it is full featured and would drive an A/P and AoA if you have the tube installed.

Thinking about Quadcopters batteries and things.   It seems like these 20000mAH jump start batteries would be better to bring online than spinning an alternator and relays and such.  80 Amp Bosch relay on the Com buss and you would have an hour of back up electronics.   Which would be in addition to the back up batteries in the display units.  So you could use your radios knowing that you will still have navigation after the radios are gone.

Edited January 1, 2020 by Yetti

[tmo]

16 hours ago, Yetti said:

The Avidyne DA10 is the back up to the Skyview.

Just to be sure, in the post above and only in the post above, by "Avidyne" you mean "Dynon" and by "DA10" you mean "D10A", correct?

[Yetti]

43 minutes ago, tmo said:

Just to be sure, in the post above and only in the post above, by "Avidyne" you mean "Dynon" and by "DA10" you mean "D10A", correct?

Thanks for the clarification fixed my post.  laying upside down on the floorboards of the Mooney impacted my posting abilities

[tmo]

First time I attempted to look under the panel in mine I ended up getting such back cramps I thought I won't be able to weasel my way out from under there, so I wholeheartedly sympathize...

[Yetti]

1 hour ago, tmo said:

First time I attempted to look under the panel in mine I ended up getting such back cramps I thought I won't be able to weasel my way out from under there, so I wholeheartedly sympathize...

Remove one of the seats.  and you can lay on your back.   My legs and feet go up on the back seat.    The Grumpy IA came over and accused me of taking a nap.   Long arms in an enclosed space require resting

[Marauder]

Remove one of the seats.  and you can lay on your back.   My legs and feet go up on the back seat.    The Grumpy IA came over and accused me of taking a nap.   Long arms in an enclosed space require resting

The challenge for Yettis is to get both arms inside of the foot wells of our 75 Fs.


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[Baker Avionics]

On 1/1/2020 at 11:15 AM, Marauder said:

 

The challenge for Yettis is to get both arms inside of the foot wells of our 75 Fs.


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@Marauder go easy on him or we will sick PTK on you!!!

[Marauder]

[mention=9886]Marauder[/mention] go easy on him or we will sick PTK on you!!!

You don’t need to worry about Yetti. He actually is a Yetti, albeit, a shaved one. I’m pretty big at 6’4”, but he makes me look like a 5 year old.


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[Baker Avionics]

3 minutes ago, Marauder said:

 

You don’t need to worry about Yetti. He actually is a Yetti, albeit, a shaved one. I’m pretty big at 6’4”, but he makes me look like a 5 year old.


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Lol! Pardon my rant on the other subject. In case you haven't read it yet. Lol You we're SO right, I must say!!!lol

[Marauder]

In case you E5 owners haven’t heard. Aspen announced yesterday that an HSI is being added to the E5. The article quotes a price for the winds aloft and annunciation, not sure it includes the HSI.


https://www.avweb.com/avionics/aspen-introduces-new-e5-features/?MailingID=258&utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Fewer+Fatal+Passenger+Aircraft+Accidents+In+2019%2C+Unexplained+Drone+Swarms+Alarm+Residents&utm_campaign=Fewer+Fatal+Passenger+Aircraft+Accidents+In+2019%2C+Unexplained+Drone+Swarms+Alarm+Residents+-+Friday+January+3%2C+2020


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[NJMac]

In case you E5 owners haven’t heard. Aspen announced yesterday that an HSI is being added to the E5. The article quotes a price for the winds aloft and annunciation, not sure it includes the HSI.


https://www.avweb.com/avionics/aspen-introduces-new-e5-features/?MailingID=258&utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Fewer+Fatal+Passenger+Aircraft+Accidents+In+2019%2C+Unexplained+Drone+Swarms+Alarm+Residents&utm_campaign=Fewer+Fatal+Passenger+Aircraft+Accidents+In+2019%2C+Unexplained+Drone+Swarms+Alarm+Residents+-+Friday+January+3%2C+2020


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Dealer said the HSI was free but he needed to charge for the install. I frankly never had an issue with the original depiction. We fly blue dot deflection on an approach, the HSI looked the exact same as that to me.

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[Marauder]

Dealer said the HSI was free but he needed to charge for the install. I frankly never had an issue with the original depiction. We fly blue dot deflection on an approach, the HSI looked the exact same as that to me.

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I was a DG flyer for years and really never appreciated an HSI until I had one. The main advantage is your DG and CDI are wrapped into one depiction. For me, I enjoy knowing what I need is right in front of me and not having to scan up to the CDI. You can see the CDI showing the course is to the left (as depicted by the MFD).




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[gsxrpilot]

Having an HSI is almost like cheating. I'd say it's 75% of the way to having an autopilot fly the approach for you. It makes it that easy.

[MIm20c]

I agree with @NJMac the E5 is nothing like a DG and shows 90% of what a hsi does. I would take a E5 DG over a 525 any day of the week. 
 

Having said that Aspen made a HUGE mistake leaving off that feature until now, huge.

[NJMac]

Yes, the break in the HSI line sure does make it impossible to miss. I'll submit this as my evidence of a bad attitude and also the green dot showing I'm just a hair right of course. Agree with Paul that it does make it like cheating.

 

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[Baker Avionics]

1 hour ago, NJMac said:

Yes, the break in the HSI line sure does make it impossible to miss. I'll submit this as my evidence of a bad attitude and also the green dot showing I'm just a hair right of course. Agree with Paul that it does make it like cheating.

 

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I like the panel overlay too

[bd95r]

There have been lots of E5 / Aspen posts lately and just wanted to get an update out there.

Aspen delivered an updated E5 ( with the new 2.11 software ) to my shop and was able to get it installed today.

I have just 30 min on the new unit but no issues so far....Aspen has been responsive to the issue and feels like we are moving forward.

[carusoam]

Great follow-up 95R.

Thanks for sharing the details.

Best regards,

-a-

[Airways]

@bd95r any further developments ? I’m about to decide on an E5.’’

[bd95r]

Still solid with E5 - New Unit + New 2.11 SW.....just bought the TAS, OAT, GPS Annuc. and Winds Aloft unlock for the E5

[NJMac]

1 hour ago, Airways said:

@bd95r any further developments ? I’m about to decide on an E5.’’

Mine has been fine since the first in flight re-set.  I still won't intentionally fly IMC with it

[bd95r]

I should add...I've put on about 6 hours since installing the new E5 configuration.

[Airways]

Allright, thanks for that.  Was there ever a causal link with the IFD440 or did you just fiddle with the E5 ?

[bd95r]

It was all the E5....seems solid now and it actually initiates faster and more consistently too.

[larrynimmo]

Just for the record...I flew with the E5 for about 220 hours ....and only once ....did it do a reboot in flight....I was on an initial leg of an instrument approach.  When it rebooted, it came up fully useful.

recently had mine fully upgraded to the Promax with synthetic vision...an upgrade well worth the added expense.