Are sunspots directing your Mooney to Mars???

[thinwing]

Just saw on av web about the possibilty of GPS signal disruption occuring after last thursdays rather energetic solar flare.Any of you operating amateur radio equipment late fri night and sat saw some amazing propagation...especially on 20 meter band.Anyway it looks like we are coming out of a 10/11 year solar minimum into a maximum.Gps ,especially waas was not widely used 10 years ago during last solar maximum,so who knows???Anybody with wass gps units see any disruption last sat ???I flew Sat morning to get cheap gas...no problems in northern calif...sinc kp couch

[N33GG]

73 de W5NG

[201er]

KC2HMU, '78 201

[thinwing]

qsl...k6zk,extra class

[tony]

cq cq cq de kt4vw

[IFlyMooney]

cq dx cq dx de wb6cnr

[sreid]

Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

[HopePilot]

Yes, on Sunday both WingX and my KLN94 both freaked out on me.  

[Jerry 5TJ]

That's funny, my Loran has been acting odd, too.  Must be the solar flare.

de N6JH

[jetdriven]

My Omega is still doing fine.

[Skybrd]

I flew last Saturday and my Garmin GPS worked with no difficulity. I read about the solar flares but haven't heard of any disruptions. EMP (electro magnetic pulse) can clobber solid state electronics and it's possible that the GPS satellites have extra shielding for that. I've had my GPS loose satellites for unknow reasons on VFR trips but shortly it cleared up. I think its always a good idea to keep track where your at and have maps accessible. -- 73, wb6dbw

[M016576]

WAAS shouldn't be affected, as the basis behind WAAS architecture is that the GPS signal is augmented by ground stations near the terminal environment, thus providing a more controlled, more accurate and more reliable signal to the host aircraft... I think....  can anyone tighten me up on this?

[fantom]

My ADF wasn't impacted at all ")">

[thinwing]

Loran,omega,adf...LOL..lots of funny replys and had no idea of the # of Hams onboard.....anydody doing any aernautical mobile ops just for grins???M016576...I will try..the ground stations recieved the some satalite signals as our airbourne equipment...but they insert a correction based on their known precise position.That correction travels thru phone lines to the sat ground station in Virginia and broadcast backup to the original satalite.The Sat in orbit broadcasts that correction factor and our airborne recievers apply it.The solar flare besides containing speed of light photons and xrays and other good stuff puts out a lot of slower moving protons as a residue of atomic fusion.When this cloud of protons hits the atmospere (F layer ionospere)it creates an ionization layer much more reflective than regular sunlight.Result is good propagation of earth generated radio waves(they get reflected and bounce up and down for long distances)radio blackouts from too much ionization..of in case of radio signal from space to ground ,gets reflected back into space .This is highly frequency dependent and gps signals are ultra high frequency...so can pass thru easier...but this last flare was very powerful...m9.3 almost a x(ten) event so scientists didnt really know for sure...kp c ouch

[thinwing]

yikes my typing was really stinko in that last post!!!!No wonder I never get a replys using PSK 31!!!..LOL kpc

[Barry]

50 years as K3SUI - Extra ...

[M016576]

Quote: thinwing

Loran,omega,adf...LOL..lots of funny replys and had no idea of the # of Hams onboard.....anydody doing any aernautical mobile ops just for grins???M016576...I will try..the ground stations recieved the some satalite signals as our airbourne equipment...but they insert a correction based on their known precise position.That correction travels thru phone lines to the sat ground station in Virginia and broadcast backup to the original satalite.The Sat in orbit broadcasts that correction factor and our airborne recievers apply it.The solar flare besides containing speed of light photons and xrays and other good stuff puts out a lot of slower moving protons as a residue of atomic fusion.When this cloud of protons hits the atmospere (F layer ionospere)it creates an ionization layer much more reflective than regular sunlight.Result is good propagation of earth generated radio waves(they get reflected and bounce up and down for long distances)radio blackouts from too much ionization..of in case of radio signal from space to ground ,gets reflected back into space .This is highly frequency dependent and gps signals are ultra high frequency...so can pass thru easier...but this last flare was very powerful...m9.3 almost a x(ten) event so scientists didnt really know for sure...kp c ouch

[fantom]

Has anyone tried this stuff for sunspots?

[Jerry 5TJ]

Quote: M016576

WAAS shouldn't be affected, as the basis behind WAAS architecture is that the GPS signal is augmented by ground stations near the terminal environment, thus providing a more controlled, more accurate and more reliable signal to the host aircraft... I think....  can anyone tighten me up on this?

[Vref]

We have AUGUR in Europe to see if we can fly to Mars

http://augur.ecacnav.com/augur/app/home

These Nanus remind a lot of Mork & Mindy...nanu nanu...well ain't that Mars...?