PT20J Posted January 5, 2019 Report Posted January 5, 2019 I'm looking for a good abrasion resistant tape -- either white or transparent -- to use on the gear doors, cowling, flaps, etc. I have used the teflon tape from Spruce in the past https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/teflonantichafetape.php but it doesn't stick very well and is pretty expensive. I was thinking of using uhmw-pe tape, but the 3M 54XX tapes are not listed as UV resistant and, unless treated, uhmw-pe material breaks down under UV (per Emco Plastics, manufacturer of uhmw-pe plastics: Sun without protection – depends on thickness and location. The thicker the better. In Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, and other desert areas – less than one year.) Of course, many areas are no continuously exposed to the sun, so maybe the UV resistance doesn't matter. Anyone found anything good? Skip Quote
MikeOH Posted January 5, 2019 Report Posted January 5, 2019 TEDLAR (DuPont) Poly vinyl floride based material No personal experience but used to protect highway signs (CALTRANS requirement), UV resistant. Not sure about abrasion resistance. Good luck. Quote
hypertech Posted January 5, 2019 Report Posted January 5, 2019 This doesn't say anything specifically about UV resistance, but acrylic is usually pretty good for weather resistance. https://www.mcmaster.com/76445a22 Quote
carusoam Posted January 5, 2019 Report Posted January 5, 2019 Hypertech, Reviewing What you posted.... Then Comparing with other experience... 1) Acrylic is what are windows are made of... they don’t resist much UV at all, until being tinted, then they degrade in the sunshine over time... unless covered... 2) UHMW is noted in the McMaster link... which is typically Ultra High Molecular Weight PE... it does say that it’s adhesive is acrylic... 3) Do you have experience with that tape? Because UHMWPE probably works pretty well. Any color it gets will have been added... 4) notes on Teflon and similar tapes... their nonsticky-ness makes it a challenge to use adhesives on... But, their high temperature resistance is really good... 5) Back to the OP... why are you selecting Teflon? Slippery, soft, hard to adhere, easy to damage, chemical resistance, expensive.... what makes this a good idea? 6) wouldn’t UHMWPE be better... Tough, smooth, lots of generic uses because of good adhesion... comes in multiple colors can have UV resistance added to it, and is low cost... PP thoughts only, not a taper... Best regards, -a- Quote
MB65E Posted January 5, 2019 Report Posted January 5, 2019 I’ve used the PTEF fiberglass tape. It sticks way better than the white roll of ptef plastic tape. Comes with a peel back. I had it on our Citation gear doors, baggage doors, anywear two piece of aluminum or paint rubbed. The plastic Teflon tape just doesn’t hold up. https://catalog.cshyde.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa/rd-grade-ptfe-coated-tape-silicone-adhesive -Matt 1 Quote
hypertech Posted January 5, 2019 Report Posted January 5, 2019 Oops, you are right, its the adhesive that is acrylic. I have used that tape and it hasn't come off and seems to work just fine. However, I do not have a plane that sits outside. It is semi-opaque / white. Quote
carusoam Posted January 5, 2019 Report Posted January 5, 2019 We were all typing at the same time... PTFE is naturally bright white... uses a Sodium treatment to treat the surface... causing a funky brownish color on the adhesive side... PVF like PVC, has only one F molecule for every two C molecules... kind of like a chemical blend of polyethylene and Teflon.... then there is PVdF more F, less PE... Since the high temperature, slipperiness, chemical resistance are not typically the need... go with something more pedestrian.... but good for what you do need... Best regards, -a- Quote
RLCarter Posted January 5, 2019 Report Posted January 5, 2019 I wouldn't think the gear doors get a lot of UV anyway Quote
rbridges Posted January 6, 2019 Report Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, MB65E said: I’ve used the PTEF fiberglass tape. It sticks way better than the white roll of ptef plastic tape. Comes with a peel back. I had it on our Citation gear doors, baggage doors, anywear two piece of aluminum or paint rubbed. The plastic Teflon tape just doesn’t hold up. https://catalog.cshyde.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa/rd-grade-ptfe-coated-tape-silicone-adhesive -Matt Thanks for that. I've uses the tape from spruce, and everyone's right about it not sticking well. Quote
mike_elliott Posted January 6, 2019 Report Posted January 6, 2019 Here is the stuff I have used. Works great https://www.mcmaster.com/uhmw-polyethylene-tape 1 Quote
Hank Posted January 6, 2019 Report Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, RLCarter said: I wouldn't think the gear doors get a lot of UV anyway Parked oitside on the ramp, they'll get some sunlight every day as the sun moves past overhead. Quote
PT20J Posted January 6, 2019 Author Report Posted January 6, 2019 Thanks, everyone. I'm currently thinking of using the fiberglass PTFE tape or the 3M 5421 UHMW tape (which is what Mooney uses) on the cowling. For the top leading edge of the flaps where there is some minor rubbing against the wing, I'm thinking of using 3M Polyurethane tape which is UV resistant and specified for helicopter rotor leading edges. Skip Quote
jetdriven Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 I use the McMaster high bond uhmw tape on the boot cowl. Works great for years. Don’t use the high bond on anything painted. Quote
carusoam Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 Polyurethane is the opposite of PTFE... It can be sticky/grippy. Unlike the slipperiness of TFE... It can be really tough... and quite rubbery/ stretchy... impact resistant in thick enough layers... It likes to stick to itself naturally... In the automotive world, the clear ‘bras’ were PU tape /decals... when left too long out in the sun and heat... they were impossible to remove and looked crappy too... the intention was to keep road FOD from directly impacting and chipping the paint... polymer thoughts only, not a mechanic... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
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