kris_adams Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 Not sure who has seen this movie, but it probably has the most general aviation planes and scenes I have ever seen in a movie. It’s supposedly based on a true story, though that seems like a stretch at times. Unfortunately N164HH was crashed in Columbia before returning to the states. http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2016/01/ted-smith-aerostar-600-heliblack-llc.html Check it out. -Kris 2 Quote
Niko182 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 43 minutes ago, Kris_Adams said: Not sure who has seen this movie, but it probably has the most general aviation planes and scenes I have ever seen in a movie. It’s supposedly based on a true story, though that seems like a stretch at times. Unfortunately N164HH was crashed in Columbia before returning to the states. http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2016/01/ted-smith-aerostar-600-heliblack-llc.html Check it out. -Kris was a great movie. only mistake i found in the movie was that the king air c90's they used were using garmin g500's and gtn 750's, which in the 1980's I believe didn't exist. LOL Great movie anyway. 1 Quote
Raptor05121 Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 Yes, I did notice the clip when they arrived, they were "GTX" logos on the sides which I believe came out in 2008. Great movie, but if you read the real history, the real guy was a prick and was stupid about his smuggling. 1 Quote
MB65E Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 Great Movie! Aerostars are sweet little airplanes!! Sad deal about the crash! They were well liked in LA aerial film crowd. Bummer, -Matt 1 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 It is hard to beleave someone would use an Aerostar for short field work. The real guy did not use an Aerostar. 1 Quote
TonyK Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 I didn't know any of the backstory to Barry Seal and avoided it so I could watch the movie without second guessing the accuracy. Fun movie but I just kept thinking that there was no way in hell he came out of that mess alive. Quote
Mooney_Allegro Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 Watched the movie on Delta Tuesday on the flight from LAS-ATL. Very entertaining with lots & lots of GA aircraft! I generally don't care for Tom Cruise, but he was good in the movie. No Mooneys in the movie though. 1 Quote
peevee Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 Kind of makes me want an aerostar 2 Quote
Mooney_Allegro Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, peevee said: Kind of makes me want an aerostar From what Dorn Claire tells me from Henry Weber Aircraft (MSC) in Lancaster, PA, the Aerostar is fast as HELL! Edited January 19, 2018 by Mooney_Allegro 1 Quote
Marauder Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mooney_Allegro said: From what Dorn Claire tells me from Henry Weber Aircraft (MSC) in Lancaster, PA, the Aerostar is fast as HELL! They are. I think they are in the 240 to 270 KTAS range depending on power setting. Dorn always had tons of them on the ramp when I was over there. I saw one at N71 (Smart Avionics) that had crashed on takeoff after having an extensive avionics upgrade done on it. The 2,500 pilot asked to fly it out had plenty of multi time but little in the Aerostar. Quote
Mooney_Allegro Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, Marauder said: They are. I think they are in the 240 to 270 KTAS range depending on power setting. Dorn always had tons of them on the ramp when I was over there. I saw one at N71 (Smart Avionics) that had crashed on takeoff after having an extensive avionics upgrade done on it. The 2,500 pilot asked to fly it out had plenty of multi time but little in the Aerostar. I remember Donegal Springs. One of their chain-smoking pilots checked me out in a Grumman GA-7 Cougar. I forgot his name, (Jay maybe?) but I'm told he went to jail for smuggling drugs? I flew the rental Cougar over to Aerodynamics at KRDG, the mechanics came out to look at the plane and noted about a dozen things wrong with it just by a quick walk-around. On the flight back, I lost a generator on one of the engines. Quote
mike_elliott Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Mooney_Allegro said: Watched the movie on Delta Tuesday on the flight from LAS-ATL. Very entertaining with lots & lots of GA aircraft! I generally don't care for Tom Cruise, but he was good in the movie. No Mooneys in the movie though. What were you doing watching a movie instead of flying that 777, David? Quote
Mooney_Allegro Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, mike_elliott said: What were you doing watching a movie instead of flying that 777, David? Haha, aviation movies always get first priority! Good hearing from you Mike, and I hope you and your wife are well in the New Year. 1 Quote
Marauder Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mooney_Allegro said: I remember Donegal Springs. One of their chain-smoking pilots checked me out in a Grumman GA-7 Cougar. I forgot his name, (Jay maybe?) but I'm told he went to jail for smuggling drugs? I flew the rental Cougar over to Aerodynamics at KRDG, the mechanics came out to look at the plane and noted about a dozen things wrong with it just by a quick walk-around. On the flight back, I lost a generator on one of the engines. Donegal Springs ownership went through a rough patch. I don't know all of the specifics but there people found guilty of some illegal activities and they ended up in jail. The airport was then sold to a group of investors including Ben Travis who runs the avionics shop there (Smart Avionics). Ben is a GREAT guy and a real pleasure to work with. 1 Quote
Marauder Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 Found the article on the Aerostar that I mentioned above: https://arffwg.org/news/donegal-springs-airpark-shut-plane-leaves-runway-pilot-uninjured/ Quote
Marauder Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, Mooney_Allegro said: I remember Donegal Springs. One of their chain-smoking pilots checked me out in a Grumman GA-7 Cougar. I forgot his name, (Jay maybe?) but I'm told he went to jail for smuggling drugs? I flew the rental Cougar over to Aerodynamics at KRDG, the mechanics came out to look at the plane and noted about a dozen things wrong with it just by a quick walk-around. On the flight back, I lost a generator on one of the engines. The details: http://lancasteronline.com/business/local_business/flying-tigers-owner-found-guilty-of-fraud-in-aircraft-inspection/article_253fda00-c011-11e3-81e1-001a4bcf6878.html Quote
Mooney_Allegro Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Marauder said: The details: http://lancasteronline.com/business/local_business/flying-tigers-owner-found-guilty-of-fraud-in-aircraft-inspection/article_253fda00-c011-11e3-81e1-001a4bcf6878.html Marauder, You're a good detective to find these articles! That's the guy that checked me out in N721GA. He was a nice guy, very patient, and a good flight instructor. Sorry for straying a bit off topic. Quote
Marauder Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Mooney_Allegro said: Marauder, You're a good detective to find these articles! That's the guy that checked me out in N721GA. He was a nice guy, very patient, and a good flight instructor. Sorry for straying a bit off topic. Blame it on the day job... Quote
kris_adams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Posted January 19, 2018 15 hours ago, Niko182 said: was a great movie. only mistake i found in the movie was that the king air c90's they used were using garmin g500's and gtn 750's, which in the 1980's I believe didn't exist. LOL Great movie anyway. good call. I saw it and didn't even think about it! Quote
kris_adams Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Posted January 19, 2018 6 hours ago, TonyK said: I didn't know any of the backstory to Barry Seal I didn't either. I'm going to research it now though Quote
Jim Peace Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Marauder said: They are. I think they are in the 240 to 270 KTAS range depending on power setting. I used to fly one out of TEB and we planned about 230 knots for a 700 pressurized version....with some speed conversions.....we did not beat on it..... Quote
Bob_Belville Posted January 19, 2018 Report Posted January 19, 2018 Jack Buss, who was the chairman of our airport authority years ago while I was on that board, died alone in his Aerostar near Chattanooga. As I recall, he lost control after going missed. Quote
exM20K Posted January 20, 2018 Report Posted January 20, 2018 And Bob North, former owner of Mt. Snow airport, real estate developer, and good friend died inexplicably in one on approach to 4V8. Bob was a very high time pilot who operated a variety of planes in and out of there, from PA46 to Paris Jet. I love the idea of an A* but don't have enough runway for one, nor am I mentally prepared to maintain a 40 year old pressurized plane. Quote
peevee Posted January 20, 2018 Report Posted January 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, exM20K said: I love the idea of an A* but don't have enough runway for one, nor am I mentally prepared to maintain a 40 year old pressurized plane. if I could afford the MX I'd sure love to have one. Quote
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