201er Posted February 13, 2017 Report Posted February 13, 2017 I heard from a credible source that Alan - Grim Reaper - Fox has his death sickle set for the very first Mooney M20E. It is the first E model and the first Mooney to sport 200HP. He's trading a flying C for the historic E and cash. And then he's going to chop it up. 1 Quote
thinwing Posted February 13, 2017 Report Posted February 13, 2017 I don't get it...after watching him chop apart that Mooney ,it appears they spend time removing low value items like side windows but make no attempt to save flaps,ailerons,elevators or rudders...I realize with the wing and aft fuse damage not all those components were good..but what appeared to be good aileron or flaps ,they stood on end bending these into worthless junk.Maybe he bid low enough all he wanted was engine and avionics.Still last time I priced a used flap..they were multi AMU...What good is a plexiglass side window installed with 30 screws once it's been installed! Quote
201er Posted February 13, 2017 Author Report Posted February 13, 2017 35 minutes ago, thinwing said: I don't get it...after watching him chop apart that Mooney ,it appears they spend time removing low value items like side windows but make no attempt to save flaps,ailerons,elevators or rudders...I realize with the wing and aft fuse damage not all those components were good..but what appeared to be good aileron or flaps ,they stood on end bending these into worthless junk.Maybe he bid low enough all he wanted was engine and avionics.Still last time I priced a used flap..they were multi AMU...What good is a plexiglass side window installed with 30 screws once it's been installed! I think they removed windows because someone specifically asked for them, otherwise he wasn't planning on it. Alan would not leave a single money making part on that thing. They must had the kind of damage that would have made them risky or unusable if he left them on. Forget not, it was a crashed/totaled airplane and not just a sitting queen. When Alan butchers the first ever built E model that's been sitting, then there may be ailerons and flaps to show for it 2 Quote
Alan Fox Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 No logs and corrosion are setting the sickle high , for the first "E" ... Quote
rbridges Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Alan Fox said: No logs and corrosion are setting the sickle high , for the first "E" ... Shame to hear but gotta be realistic. 1 Quote
Alan Fox Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 If anybody wants to save it , inbox me , it is in SE Pa.... Quote
Marauder Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 If anybody wants to save it , inbox me , it is in SE Pa.... Near me?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Alan Fox Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Marauder said: Near me? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Yep ! Quote
Alan Fox Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 12 hours ago, 201er said: I think they removed windows because someone specifically asked for them, otherwise he wasn't planning on it. Alan would not leave a single money making part on that thing. They must had the kind of damage that would have made them risky or unusable if he left them on. Forget not, it was a crashed/totaled airplane and not just a sitting queen. When Alan butchers the first ever built E model that's been sitting, then there may be ailerons and flaps to show for it Yes the control surfaces were bad on the Tipton ship.... When the parts are critical like a control surface , They get scrapped if not 100% ....Also pre 65 airframe parts , are so plentiful , they rarely sell.... 1 Quote
DXB Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 I saw an abandoned '64 E that an owner of a SE PA shop had claimed and was hoping to bring back. I admired his courage, but it seemed like a colossal undertaking. I wonder if he gave up, and this is the same bird. It was hard for me to imagine that plane would ever flying again. Quote
Ron McBride Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 Maybe this should be the first aircraft in the Mooney Museum? Stacey??? Quote
Alan Fox Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 6 hours ago, DXB said: I saw an abandoned '64 E that an owner of a SE PA shop had claimed and was hoping to bring back. I admired his courage, but it seemed like a colossal undertaking. I wonder if he gave up, and this is the same bird. It was hard for me to imagine that plane would ever flying again. Yes this is it , I convinced Ben to move on....He will soon be the proud owner of a C model... 1 Quote
DXB Posted February 15, 2017 Report Posted February 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Alan Fox said: Yes this is it , I convinced Ben to move on....He will soon be the proud owner of a C model... That's actually great news folks. No need to shed a tear - that bird looked dead long before Alan got to it. Upside is that there will now be an old C model getting revitalized by Ben with the most tricked out avionics imaginable. Quote
MTNM20E Posted February 15, 2017 Report Posted February 15, 2017 I'm really enjoying my new to me 64 M20E. Hate to see one written off but I guess some are just to far gone. Quote
Marauder Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 Here it is... What's the story behind it? How did it get to where it is today?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Quote
201er Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Posted February 16, 2017 Do you now own the first E model ever built? Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 I would at least check with Mooney to see if there is interest for the future museum...it doesn't need to be airworthy!Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk Quote
ArtVandelay Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 I would at least check with Mooney to see if there is interest for the future museum...it doesn't need to be airworthy! Pretty sure they don't have a surplus of cash to buy up old planes. Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 Very true, but it likely wouldn't take much for this one...Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk Quote
mooniac15u Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 This aircraft has serial number 102. Serial number 101 was registered to Mooney as N6729U. Any idea why Mooney kept that one? Quote
N601RX Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 It was likely used for flight testing or static load testing. Quote
Shadrach Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, N601RX said: It was likely used for flight testing or static load testing. Flight testing and static load testing for a 20hp bump with little to no change to the airframe? Is/was the certification process really that over reaching? I just assumed they had several airframes they used as test beds and the engines were swapped as needed. I read that they tested the airframe with up to 250hp before 1970. Quote
prflyer Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 I agree this is a sad looking Mooney, but I was hoping Ben would bring it back. He at least had it inside the hangar when I saw it a couple of years ago, but he did tell me it sat outside for many years. I'm sure the C model will have some great avionics . . . Ben does very nice work. Fernando Quote
Andy95W Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 I knew that N# looked familiar. 2 Quote
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