Frontal area of Mooney

[triple8s]

Did anyone see Dirk at the Sumitt with that paper showing what the frontal (plate) area was on the Mooney Ovation? I can't remember for sure what the number was but I think it was 272 sq inches, does this sound right? I know the square he had was unbelievably small. I want to discuss this with some Bonanza guys at the hangar.

[PTK]

4 hours ago, triple8s said:

Did anyone see Dirk at the Sumitt with that paper showing what the frontal (plate) area was on the Mooney Ovation? I can't remember for sure what the number was but I think it was 272 sq inches, does this sound right? I know the square he had was unbelievably small. I want to discuss this with some Bonanza guys at the hangar.

The equivalent flat plate area (EFPA) of the J is 2.81ft² or 405 in².

I'd imagine the O should be about the same.

For comparison the Bonanza is 3.47 ft² or 500 in².

Edit: The 518 in²  is closer to the Bonanza EFPA.

 

[triple8s]

I would also have thought that all of the m20's would be very close and 518 May be the number but I could have swore I saw 272. I started looking at just how big(small) 272sq in is and it made me think this can't be right. 

[chrisk]

All I know is they are damn small when one is coming at you head on.  The wings disappear and the fuselage is tiny.   I now use my landing light all the time!  --and yes it is a LED.

[ArtVandelay]

All I know is they are damn small when one is coming at you head on.  The wings disappear and the fuselage is tiny.   I now use my landing light all the time!  --and yes it is a LED.

These are the equivalent of a flat plate, so has more to do with aerodynamics, not the cross sectional size.

[Guitarmaster]

All I know is they are damn small when one is coming at you head on.  The wings disappear and the fuselage is tiny.   I now use my landing light all the time!  --and yes it is a LED.

The LED light make it go faster too!


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[Yetti]

There was a mooney landing yesterday on a straight in final.  It took a lot of looking and did not get spotted till about 2 miles.

[jetdriven]

It's not the frontal area of the airplane,  it's the "equivalent flat plate area". Which is a flat plate exposed in a wind tunnel. The 201 is something like 2.81ft sq.  

https://books.google.com/books?id=tBr_WxhjCtUC&pg=PA130&lpg=PA130&dq=equivalent+flat+plate+area+mooney&source=bl&ots=wO-ITVdgsi&sig=xuWMeO8jscTgdBGfoJOzu1lRspg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj60dDImdDPAhUS8mMKHUmWC-UQ6AEIHzAA#v=onepage&q=equivalent flat plate area mooney&f=false

Edited October 10, 2016 by jetdriven

[kris_adams]

12 hours ago, chrisk said:

All I know is they are damn small when one is coming at you head on.  The wings disappear and the fuselage is tiny.   I now use my landing light all the time!  --and yes it is a LED.

Just got my LED landing light installed.  I'm planning on running it all of the time as well unless someone has a reason not to.

[kris_adams]

1 hour ago, Yetti said:

There was a mooney landing yesterday on a straight in final.  It took a lot of looking and did not get spotted till about 2 miles.

heck I can't see hardly anything until 2 miles...probably time for some new glasses!

[Guitarmaster]

Just got my LED landing light installed.  I'm planning on running it all of the time as well unless someone has a reason not to.

Put a flasher on it. Many times more visible!

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