DonMuncy Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Has anyone heard anything more than I have about a crash of a "small" plane crash in Lyon County Kentucky, Louisville or Eddyville?. Four dead, but a 7 year old girl managed to get out and get to a house asking for help. Quote
carusoam Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 It's in the USA Today online paper... Check out this article from USA TODAY: Police: Girl, 7, says she survived Ky. plane crash http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/02/police-girl-7-says-she-survived-ky-plane-crash/21219009/ Sent from my iPad Best regards, -a- Quote
DonMuncy Posted January 3, 2015 Author Report Posted January 3, 2015 apparently a Piper Seneca. Quote
Raptor05121 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Departed from KTLH, so it had plenty of fuel Quote
jrwilson Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Departed from KTLH, so it had plenty of fuel Assuming they fueled after flight before, or had it on the correct tank or weren't keeping the fuel light for gross weight issues or wanting to get cheaper gas somewhere else or.. Quote
Danb Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Very sad way for their family to start the new year...God bless them all... Quote
DonMuncy Posted January 3, 2015 Author Report Posted January 3, 2015 I read that the pilot reported an engine problem. Haven't seen any elaboration on that. Quote
John Pleisse Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Very sad...sorry to hear. An "engine problem" in a Seneca should be a non event, even at gross. Quote
N33GG Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 Very sad...sorry to hear. An "engine problem" in a Seneca should be a non event, even at gross. Unless it involves both engines... Quote
Piloto Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 The plane was register as N81291. As per Flightaware.com data it appears that it started a normal descent at 6:15 pm and engine problem at 6:51 pm. at about 2,700ft. These events happened past sunset. Besides figuring which engine failed and what to do he needed to find the closest airport. The loss of transponder data below 2700ft could be related to ATC radar coverage or loss of electrical power, which may have disabled the GPS and the instruments lighting. The sudden left turn may be related to a left engine failure. A challenging situation for any pilot. José Quote
ryoder Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 I feel terrible for that little girl. Quote
fantom Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 From the reports I've read that little girl really had her stuff together and exhibited amazing resiliency and courage getting out of the plane, walking almost a mile through thick forest, heading toward the light, injured and bleeding, to report the crash. She's out of the hospital and with relatives. The pilot was a full time CFI with 30 years of flying experience. Two engines in a light GA plane didn't save them. So sad...RIP Quote
flyingvee201 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 The local Louisville news stated that her father trained in survival training and did give some training to his daughter and wife for time to time. Some are speculating that icing may have been involved on top of the engine problem. Quote
N33GG Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 A cfi? Wow. That sucks. Being a CFII/MEI myself, I assure you we CFIs can screw up as good as any other pilots out there, regardless of ratings. Quote
Alan Fox Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 Looking at the accident pics , the plane was upside down and in one piece , possibly a VMC rollover , truly amazing anyone survived at all .....sad.. Quote
flyboy0681 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 From the reports I've read that little girl really had her stuff together and exhibited amazing resiliency and courage getting out of the plane, walking almost a mile through thick forest, heading toward the light, injured and bleeding, to report the crash. She's out of the hospital and with relatives. I saw this story on the news and sat there looking incredulous at what this girl did, injuries and all. Quote
marks Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 I read on Aviation Consumer that the PA-34 has only three positions for fuel selection; on, off and crossover. Sometimes pilots make mistakes, sometimes the airplane fails. RIP Quote
Blackhawk Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 I read on Aviation Consumer that the PA-34 has only three positions for fuel selection; on, off and crossover. Sometimes pilots make mistakes, sometimes the airplane fails. RIP There are three positions and you go through the "OFF" position when going from "ON" to "CROSSFEED". This design has since been outlawed per part 23. Quote
DS1980 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2015/January/08/Be-prepared Quote
scottfromiowa Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 That young lady is my hero. Can't imagine how I would have "performed" under such circumstances. Injured, Cold, Disoriented and alone with "hopefully sleeping" loved ones. 3/4's of a mile through woods without bearings to get help. Simply amazing. I wish I could make it all go away for her. Glad she is with relatives that love and support her. RIP Quote
flyboy0681 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 3/4's of a mile through woods without bearings to get help. Barefooted Quote
John Pleisse Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 This is either double induction icing, single induction icing and he shut the wrong engine down, fuel mismanagement or fuel starvation. Although, rescue reports said the crash site reeked of fuel. I am watching to see how this ends up. Prayers to the family and young Sailor. Quote
Marauder Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2015/January/08/Be-prepared This is a good topic to add. I fly both VFR and IFR over the hills of central Pennsylvania. I built survival kits that I carry with me. A summer and a winter one. With the cold temperatures we are experiencing, a few hours in the cold could be a killer. 1 Quote
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