Flash Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 From Wednesday night 12/7 to Wednesday afternoon 12/14, I flew from the Bay Area to Jacksonville, ran a marathon, and flew back. Total nautical miles if I had flown direct between each airport: 4,177. Actual routing: 4,343. My routing, affected by where friends live, where weather was, fuel prices, and when I had to land to take work calls: SQL-RQE-BRG-TDW-AXS-HKS-CRG-VLD-EDN-GKY-TDW-PGA-SQL. One thing I found difficult in planning my route was doing searches for fields with someplace to stay within a walkable distance. Four of my flights ended in the middle of the night. So I'll share some info in hope that the community will pool its knowledge and help those taking future trips. Walkable hotels were in Window Rock (no fuel on field, but otherwise good overnight) with a five-minute walk to the Quality Inn; Arlington, Texas, a 15-minute walk to the Hampton Inn; Page, Arizona, a 15-minute walk to the Hyatt Place. I walked to the Hampton Inn in Altus, Oklahoma, but it wasn't a good move. The road from the airport to the hotel is a highway with no sidewalk. A sheriff pulled over with flashing lights to ask me what the hell I was doing. Fredericksburg (T82) would have been good if it had been closer to my route. Please share your favorite airport/walkable hotel pairings. By the way, the views from the Page airport are phenomenal, even though you're looking away from the Grand Canyon. 2 Quote
Flash Posted December 15, 2023 Author Report Posted December 15, 2023 With a hat tip to @Deb for pointing this out, BeechTalk had this discussion six years ago. Here is a list they put together there, with my recent suggestions of hotels that are not on-field but still walkable added: State, City, Code, Name, Hotel, Latitude, Longitude, Distance, Restaurant, Turf AR, Lakeview, 3M0, Gastons Airport, Gaston's White River Resort, , , , , t AZ, Page, KPGA, Hyatt Place AZ, Sedona, KSEZ, Sedona Airport, Sky Ranch Lodge, 34.8485833, -111.7884444, , , AZ, Window Rock, KRQE, Quality Inn CA, Coalinga, 3O8, Harris Ranch Airport, Harris Ranch Inn & Restaurant, 36.2481111, -120.2384722, , r, CA, Concord, KCCR, Buchanan Field Airport, Crowne Plaza, 37.9896667, -122.0568889, , , CA, Imperial, KIPL, Imperial County Airport, Rodeway Inn Imperial, 32.8342222, -115.57875, , , CA, Mojave, KMHV, Mojave Air and Space Port, , 35.0589444, -118.1506111, walking, , CA, Van Nuys, KVNY, Van Nuys Airport, Airtel Plaza, 34.2098056, -118.4899722, , , FL, Boca Raton, KBCT, Boca Raton Airport, Fairfield Inn & Suites, 26.3785, -80.1076944, , , FL, Fort Lauderdale, KFXE, Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport, Courtyard Marriott, 26.1972794 / -80.1707063, , , , FL, Lakeland, KLAL, Lakeland Linder Regional Airport, Hilton Garden Inn, 27.9889167, -82.0185556, , , FL, Sebring, KSEF, Sebring Regional Airport, , 27.4563889, -81.3423889, , , GA, Brunswick, KSSI, McKinnon St Simons Island Airport, , 31.1519722, -81.3910556, , r, KS, Beaumont, 07S, Beaumont Hotel Airport, Beaumont Hotel, , , , , t KS, Wichita, KICT, Wichita Dwight D Eisenhower National Airport, , 37.6499444, -97.4330556, , , KY, Cadiz, 1M9, Lake Barkley State Park Airport, , 36.8178014, -87.9075167, state park, , KY, Gilbertsville, M34, Kentucky Dam State Park Airport, , 37.0096944, -88.2993333, state park, , LA, Alexandria, KAEX, Alexandria International Airport, , 31.3273717, -92.5485561, , , ME, Bangor, KBGR, Bangor International Airport, Four Points Sheraton, 44.8074444, -68.8281389, , , OK, Oklahoma City, KOKC, Will Rogers World Airport, , 35.393074, -97.6007617, , , OR, Albany, S12, Albany Municipal Airport, , 44.6378056, -123.0594444, , , PA, Farmington, PA88, Nemacolin Airport, Nemacolin Resort, 39.8056314, -79.54893, , , PA, Pittsburgh, KAGC, Allegheny County Airport, , 40.3544376, -79.9290467, , , TN, Knoxville, KTYS, Mc Ghee Tyson Airport, Hilton, 35.8093739, -83.9953214, , , TX, Arlington, KGKY, Hampton Inn TX, Austin, KAUS, Austin-Bergstrom International Airport, Hilton & Hyatt Place, 30.1945278, -97.6698889, , , TX, Fredricksburg, T82, Gillespie County Airport, Hanger Hotel, 30.24325, -98.9091944, , , TX, Lajitas, 89TE, Lajitas International Airport, , 29.2779167, -103.6876389, resort, , TX, Marble Falls, 86TA, Slaughter Ranch Airport, Horseshoe Bay Resort, , , , , t TX, Presidio, 3T9, Big Bend Ranch State Park Airport, bunkhouse, 29.4710833, -103.9364167, , tarantulas, TX, Taylor, T74, Taylor Municipal Airport, Best Western , 30.5726389, -97.4431944, , r, VA, Moneta, W91, Smith Mountain Lake Airport, Bedford Landings B&B, 37.1077222, -79.5924722, , , VA, Saluda, W75, Hummel Field, , 37.6022708, -76.4467292, , , VA, Tangier, KTGI, Tangier Island Airport, , 37.8258653, -75.9976625, , , VT, Vergennes, B06, Basin Harbor Airport, , , , , , t WA, Auburn, S50, Auburn Municipal Airport, , 47.3276844, -122.2266547, walking from S parking, , WA, Bellingham, KBLI, Bellingham International Airport, Holiday Inn Hotel & Suites, 48.7926944, -122.5375278, , , WA, Roche Harbor, WA09, Roche Harbor Airport, , 48.6123217, -123.13852, , , WI, Green Bay, KGRB, Green Bay-Austin Straubel International Airport, Windgate by Wyndham, 44.4846389, -88.1297222, , , WI, Oshkosh, KOSH, Wittman Regional Airport, Hilton Garden Inn, 43.9844911, -88.5569349, , r, WV, Davis, WV62, Windwood Fly-In Resort Airport, Amelia's Motel, 39.0551086, -79.4314386, , r, WY, Alpine, 46U, Alpine Airport, VRBO, 43.1817736, -111.0385236, , , zNova Scotia, Fox Harbor, CFH4, Fox Harbour Airport, Fox Harb'r Resort, , , , , 1 1 Quote
Bolter Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 Rural airports with self-serve courtesy cars are the next best thing. Probably a list for those out there, too. 2 Quote
EricJ Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 Grand Junction, CO, has a bunch, too, and at Seligman, AZ, the entire downtown is a short walk from the airport. The airport at Seligman has zero services, though. The Santa Maria airport in CA (KSMX) has a Radisson on the field that you can park next to, which will be nice once Planes of Fame completes their facility there. 1 Quote
Flash Posted December 15, 2023 Author Report Posted December 15, 2023 I should have added that the Hampton Inn, Montrose, Colorado is directly behind the FBO. Quote
PeteMc Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 ForeFlight often lists the motel/hotel info with the mileage on the Airport Info page (or side Info Box). Of course, they only know what they've been told. So, probably a better option is to call the FBO or Apt Manager and ask them to make sure the info is correct or if there is an unlisted motel/hotel that a local would know about. AOPA has info to, but I don't find it as easy to use as it use to be. And, of course, there is always Google Maps to just search around the Apt for motels. 2 Quote
larryb Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 First, congratulations on what sounds like a great trip. On my trips I like to use mid-size regional airports. These airports have at least regional airline service, as well as FBO's, cars and reasonably priced fuel. For the hotel I have two sources, Airnav.com and the FBO itself. I've found that FBO's often have great local hotel rates and can hook you up with a local hotel that at least has an airport shuttle van. The person that knows this stuff however generally works M-F 8-5. So if you call late at night or on the weekend you just get a random line person answering who doesn't know anything. The FBO's are used to dealing with crews from the visiting jets so they are very used to doing this sort of service. Airnav.com has a hotels tab and they sort the hotels by distance from FBO. I've gotten some outstanding rates through them as well. Larry 5 2 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 Be sure to check current status, things change, like Taylor (T74), hotel is 0.2 miles and there’s a restaurant next door, super convenient but I just checked and they have fuel problems.Abbyville (IYA) also has a hotel less than 0.2 miles and fast food about 1/2 mile away, but it’s prices are very high for such a small non towered airport, $7.27. 1 Quote
Hank Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 I've walked with coworkers from the El Paso Airport to our hotel. Seems there are a couple to choose from. 1 Quote
Bolter Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 4 hours ago, EricJ said: Grand Junction, CO, has a bunch, too, and at Seligman, AZ, the entire downtown is a short walk from the airport. The airport at Seligman has zero services, though. The Santa Maria airport in CA (KSMX) has a Radisson on the field that you can park next to, which will be nice once Planes of Fame completes their facility there. KSMX Radisson is where the Mooney PPP is every other year. Great location for this kind of thing. Taxi, park, and walk on in. I was unaware of Panes of Fame moving there. KVNY (Van Nuys, CA) has the AirTel which has their own GA parking when you stay with them. 1 Quote
A64Pilot Posted December 17, 2023 Report Posted December 17, 2023 Been a long time since I used to flt long cross countries, but I would use Airnav to flt plan plus they had numbers for local hotels you could call and find out how far if they would come get you etc. Go to fuel and plan a flight with fuel stops, I pick cheapest and it’s common for a flight like you did to save over $100 each way http://www.airnav.com/plan/fuel/ Of course as that was long ago I’m sure everyone knows that Quote
Flash Posted December 17, 2023 Author Report Posted December 17, 2023 20 hours ago, A64Pilot said: Been a long time since I used to flt long cross countries, but I would use Airnav to flt plan plus they had numbers for local hotels you could call and find out how far if they would come get you etc. Go to fuel and plan a flight with fuel stops, I pick cheapest and it’s common for a flight like you did to save over $100 each way http://www.airnav.com/plan/fuel/ Of course as that was long ago I’m sure everyone knows that Thanks, @A64Pilot. I did know that and use that, but I'm sure there's someone reading this who didn't know it but does now, thanks to you. It's an excellent tool. Quote
hubcap Posted December 17, 2023 Report Posted December 17, 2023 There is a nice hotel right next to KEVV in Evansville, IN and the local pizza place delivers until midnight. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted December 17, 2023 Report Posted December 17, 2023 I wrote a script years ago to automatically create a list of airports with nearby hotels. I use GPS straight distance, so actually walking distance maybe longer. 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Fly Boomer Posted December 17, 2023 Report Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, ArtVandelay said: I wrote a script years ago to automatically create a list of airports with nearby hotels. I use GPS straight distance, so actually walking distance maybe longer. YMMV Scraped from AirNav? Quote
Brotherman Posted December 18, 2023 Report Posted December 18, 2023 I've done KRTN and KGUC - courtesy cars at KRTN available for an overnight and there is a hotel you can walk to from the FBO at KGUC. 2 Quote
EricJ Posted December 20, 2023 Report Posted December 20, 2023 There's also a Best Western essentially across the street from the public terminal at Scottsdale, KSDL. There is often plenty of public transient parking near the terminal. Quote
wombat Posted December 20, 2023 Report Posted December 20, 2023 I would prefer an airport with a car available than one with a hotel nearby. I should really get an electric bike or some sort of 'better/faster than a folding bike' transportation I can put in my plane. Currently I have a couple of super old and cranky folding bikes. While they are way better than walking for any distance of more than about 1 mile, they are quite unpleasant to use for anything more than 5 miles or on hills. Electric scooters are quite small, don't have a steep learning curve, and are very affordable. Best Buy is offering a 20MPH one with 31 miles of range for $559. Their biggest downfalls for me are: The size of the tires and their inability to handle rough terrain, rocks, pavement cracks, and soft surfaces like sand. The weight (40# or so) The industry is full of cheap knock-off brands and the price premium for well established brands doesn't seem to come with a quality premium. Quote
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