Electronic checklist

[rturbett]

Looking for recommendations on favorite electronic checklists for a M20J.  would love to have it on my Ipad- any favorite programs ?

Thanks,

Rob

[RLCarter]

I wrote my own for my iPad, didn’t really like it once I stated using it…. Went back to laminated card stock (paper)

[EricJ]

Some EFBs can store lists and checklists natively, and some make it easy to check stuff off.     My IFD (in-panel GPS) also has a page for checklists that's pretty easy to use.   I keep some on there and it's kind of handy.

[MikeOH]

The closest my checklists come to electronic is the wire in the spiral binding

[Hank]

28 minutes ago, RLCarter said:

I wrote my own 

Me too.

Start with the POH, type it into your favorite word processor. Print it out, play with it, mark things to move so that it suits your flow. When you have it the way you want, change to Landscape and arrange the page breaks to convenient spots. You may need to dig through the Help screens, but look for something like Booklet Format and set it for double-sided printing. (No, my printer isn't double sided either, you just have to feed the printed sheets back through a second time.)

Now stack the pages up, fold them in half and verify that everything is right. I used mine for a couple of flights, scribbled a few changes, reprinted then ran the pages through my wife's cold laminator (sort of soft, and easy to bend and crease in the middle). Then just sew the pages together in the middle (look up Booklet Stitch, it's really, really easy).

I've been using my original one for > 15 years. It's exactly the same size as my Sporty's IFR knee board, and it lives on top of blank sheets for scribbling clearances, frequency changes, etc.

[hubcap]

I use the Garmin program for creating the checklist. I have mine uploaded into my G3x. The Garmin software is free.

[Danb]

There’s a checklist available for G1000, wonder if it’s usable for our version, and worthwhile?

[LANCECASPER]

There’s a checklist available for G1000, wonder if it’s usable for our version, and worthwhile?

It's probably already on your Acclaim.




https://www.dropbox.com/s/7e0ax6f0nw17pey/Garmin_G1000W_WAAS_Version.pdf?dl=0      Page 53

[GeeBee]

I use the checklist on my G1000 on the ground. In the air, I don't use it because I have to come out of the map display and I find myself blind to traffic. Yeah there is the inset on the lower left of the PFD, but not big enough. So I use the electronic on the ground, paper in the air. I do have the emergency checklist on my iPad as the Mooney POH is less than stellar for finding the correct procedure.

[midlifeflyer]

Multiple options for an iPad.

1. A pdf of a written checklist.
2. The checklist function in your EFB (I think most if not  all have them now)
3. a stand-alone super sophisticated checklist app like MiraCheck Copilot. 
    

[ttflyer]

I think you can make or download one in ForeFlight if you use that...  I use the one on my 750 religiously for all phases of flight - I'm a big fan of electronic checklists.   I have the knob menu set to MAP->CHKSLT->TRAFFIC so I just twist it back and forth as needed. Easy peasy. 

[wombat]

It's not electronic, but I have checklists that I've made for my rocket that you can look at here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g503KgnMVXarCNgaluQcTtDE1adBbmItshkxSoDBG7Q

I print them out and laminate them.  I like having a separate piece of paper for the preflight and the rest of the stuff before takeoff, so I don't have to fumble around in flight with the preflight checklist stuff.   My 'in flight' checklists are quite simple which leaves me more time for controlling the aircraft.     Always so weird when people have the sheet with everything in the world on it and then they try to use that in flight.... "What tiny bit of the giant sheet of paper with 6 point text in a dozen colors is the before landing checklist on?...  Oh, wait, that's the section about oil changes.... Nope, that's the advertisement for the checklist company..... Where is it again????"

 

Also, not sure why someone would want to use the electronics for checklists....   Every screen in the plane (G500, GTN750, MVP50, iPad) has stuff on it I want to see basically all the time.   Don't want to cover that up with checklist junk that will require button presses to get out of to get back to the more important things.   And it's not like I'm some 75 year old luddite stick-in-the-mud.  I'm still under 50 and am a technology/computer professional by education and profession.  But there are some things where I don't think tech is a good fit and this is one of them.    

Edited November 15, 2023 by wombat

[Pinecone]

I have MiraChek and like it.  I have not tried the voice response.  I started with the POH and did some slight changes in order of some items to make a smoother flow.

It also allows you to print them out, which I also did.

You can use a headset or ear piece and actually say Check for each item and it gets checked off.  Pretty neat.

[wombat]

I don't know MiraChek.... It sounds like a significantly different type of electronic checklist than I'm thinking of when I say tech is not a good fit.  Not saying I think it is good, just that I don't know enough to say one way or the other.   

[Fritz1]

I wrote my own checklist for the Bravo derived from the POH, re-wrote a couple of times, laminated and put on knee board that straps to my left leg, found that this makes it easier than calling in up on a screen that is better used to display other things, have 530, 430 and 796 

M20Mchecklist.pdf

[Jetpilot86]

Been building up one on ForeFlight. Once I’m happy, I’ll build a paper backup. 

[Fly Boomer]

On 11/15/2023 at 9:38 AM, Pinecone said:

You can use a headset or ear piece and actually say Check for each item and it gets checked off.  Pretty neat.

That would be handy.  As far as I can tell, Foreflight can't do that.

[midlifeflyer]

On 11/15/2023 at 10:27 AM, wombat said:

Also, not sure why someone would want to use the electronics for checklists..

Just different strokes. 

Despite being familiar with electronic checklists (and extremely impressed with what MiraCheck in particular has accomplished), I personally prefer paper. I think it's far more efficient for me. And I prefer the format of the personalized checklists I have written. Other reasons are similar to yours. My electronic checklists are backup and even then, my primary electronic checklist is a pdf of my personalized ones. (I do use Mira and Foreflight's sometimes when instructing in an airplane I'm less familiar with.)

But at the same time, I think it's like most things - desire, experience, and training. I've seen pilots who regularly  use eChecklists. So smoothy and efficiently it makes me want to try more...  

...almost  

[RoundTwo]

Following

[ZamF16]

I just recently switched EFBs on my iPad from FlyQ to Garmin Pilot.  When you set up Garmin Pilot with your aircraft specifics it auto loads the associated checklists that you can check off as you execute them.  They are also editable if there is something you want to add/change.  I have just started using it this week, but it seems pretty useful.  I still have my laminated version on my kneeboard, for now...  

[hubcap]

On 11/15/2023 at 9:38 AM, Pinecone said:

I have MiraChek and like it.  I have not tried the voice response.  I started with the POH and did some slight changes in order of some items to make a smoother flow.

It also allows you to print them out, which I also did.

You can use a headset or ear piece and actually say Check for each item and it gets checked off.  Pretty neat.

Terry - are you planning on keeping MiraChek after your avionics upgrade? You can use the G3x for your checklist.

[Fly Boomer]

On 11/15/2023 at 9:27 AM, wombat said:

It's not electronic, but I have checklists that I've made for my rocket that you can look at

I was comparing your checklists to mine and, for pattern work, it looks like you set WOT for takeoff (I believe that should be 38 inches), then you pull back to 35 inches at 500 feet, then pull back to 20 inches at pattern altitude (and expect 105 knots).  Then, "middle of downwind" you power up again to 27 inches and, finally, when abeam the numbers, you throttle back to 15 inches, and start down.  I have a feeling there is a typo in here somewhere.  Is the 27 inches supposed to be 17 inches?

[Rick Junkin]

I took the time to customize a Foreflight checklist for my Bravo and found it useful for Abnormals and Emergencies, but a bit cumbersome to use for the standard checks with the iPad mini mounted on my yoke. I found the laminated Checkmate card to be easier to use for the every-flight checks.

However, I built a custom checklist on my G3X and really like it for everything. It's very easy to use, and it's a flip of the wrist away when I need it. Then just another flip of the wrist back to the map display. I don't necessarily check off each item, but I can quickly and easily read through the checklist just like I did with the Checkmate card. I tailored each checklist to fit on a single display page, which makes it super easy to use and sequence to the next checklist. I still have the Foreflight checklist available, which has all of my notes and details in it, in the event I need to refresh on the details. And of course the Checkmate card is still in the map pocket.

I'm happy to share my checklist files with anyone interested, with the caveat that they're tailored to my Bravo and my flow. You'll need to do a thorough review and edit in your airplane before using them. They would be a decent starting place for building a J checklist of you're starting from scratch.

Cheers,
Rick

[Pinecone]

7 hours ago, hubcap said:

Terry - are you planning on keeping MiraChek after your avionics upgrade? You can use the G3x for your checklist.

Actually I use it and paper.

Paper works better for flow segments.  Where you do a left to right high, right to left low and check the position of every switch, then a quick look down the paper to catch anything you miss.

For other things, the electronic works great.  The big change I will make is actually hook up the voice deal in MiraCheck.

I am not sure I want checklists popping up on my displays.   Also hard to use before you start the engine.

 

[RoundTwo]

Checklists seem to evolve over time as you tailor them to fit your needs at the moment. When I first got my J, the checklists had lots of procedures and processes because so much was new to me. Since then, they’ve become more concise.