C.J. Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 Hello to all, Does anyone know where I can find two serviceable, used Cleveland wheel caps p/n 158-01000? I have already messaged @Alan Fox and Wentworth. For new ones I've already contacted airpowerinc.com, univair.com & spruce. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. C.J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammdo Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 I bought mine on eBay ($75 each) but I bet those are long gone, he had old new stock back in November. May try there… -Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.J. Posted April 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, hammdo said: I bought mine on eBay ($75 each) but I bet those are long gone, he had old new stock back in November. May try there… -Don Thanks Don. Wentworth called an hour ago and had two for $85 each. Can't believe my good luck. Nobody even had new parts in stock and at best it would've been a three to eight week wait, with prices ranging from $400 to $500. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted April 8, 2023 Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 Let me guess, the cotters cut yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammdo Posted April 8, 2023 Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 Mine were also that way… -Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.J. Posted April 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 3 hours ago, RLCarter said: Let me guess, the cotters cut yours Very good guess. That's definitely what happened to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted April 9, 2023 Report Share Posted April 9, 2023 Yikes! That is an expensive lesson… Thanks for the report. Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted April 9, 2023 Report Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 10:51 PM, C.J. said: Very good guess. That's definitely what happened to them. When I was getting my E back in the air there were slight marks on both caps, A&P said he’d seen it multiple times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyechuck Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just finishing the annual. Have the same problem. Need two. Nothing on eBay new ones $5-600. Anyone know if these are cast aluminum or magnesium? At the cost of new, I’m guessing magnesium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB65E Posted September 19, 2023 Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 I highly doubt they were Mag but could be as a lot of the older Cleveland wheels were mag. Some one should print them! I’d donate a used one for the effort. -Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted September 19, 2023 Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 I’m pretty sure all our wheels are magnesium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted September 19, 2023 Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said: I’m pretty sure all our wheels are magnesium. Camp fire material! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted September 19, 2023 Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 44 minutes ago, EricJ said: Camp fire material! If you do it at the Imperial Sand Dunes, you have to throw it into someone else’s campfire. They will hunt you down and fine you for an environmental violation. Just stick to Sobe bombs, they don’t last as long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinecone Posted September 19, 2023 Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 Hmm, the "hub caps" on my K are just Al sheet. I have considered the Hubba Hubba ones. Has anyone used then without issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB65E Posted September 19, 2023 Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 Those are fine, but we are speaking of the inner cap that the vintage airplanes had with 3 screws that covers the wheel nut itself. Univair has them for $497. I would sign off a 3D printed one. -Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIREMATT Posted September 19, 2023 Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 10:51 PM, C.J. said: Very good guess. That's definitely what happened to them. Not familiar with that issue. Can you explain what’s happening to the Cotter pins so I can watch for it? Thanks, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinecone Posted September 19, 2023 Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 Aaah, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.J. Posted September 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 4 hours ago, AIREMATT said: Not familiar with that issue. Can you explain what’s happening to the Cotter pins so I can watch for it? Thanks, Dan If the cotter pin isn't bent backward sufficiently, it will score/gouge the inside of the wheel cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyechuck Posted September 20, 2023 Report Share Posted September 20, 2023 22 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said: I’m pretty sure all our wheels are magnesium. I tested one of my damaged caps today. Did the vinegar test, no reaction. Filed some material off and tried to light it. No response. It seems these are aluminum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted September 20, 2023 Report Share Posted September 20, 2023 53 minutes ago, Buckeyechuck said: I tested one of my damaged caps today. Did the vinegar test, no reaction. Filed some material off and tried to light it. No response. It seems these are aluminum. I know the wheels on my two Mooneys were magnesium. Your wheels are older, they may be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Boomer Posted September 20, 2023 Report Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Buckeyechuck said: I tested one of my damaged caps today. Did the vinegar test, no reaction. Filed some material off and tried to light it. No response. It seems these are aluminum. Cleveland Maintenance Manual says all 40-86 and 40-87 wheels are magnesium except 40-87C and 40-87H which are aluminum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffy Posted September 20, 2023 Report Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) The wheel "could" be mag or aluminum depending on P/N Anyone familiar with either can tell just by lifting them Same with the small hub caps. I'd have a TIG welder do it. Save $$$$$$ by welding if new is $500 ea. At $85 it might be a toss up. You're just filling in lost metal on a cast part. Clean the weld with a dremel and files This is not a structural part. Its only a dust cover. If vinegar doesn't foam on clean metal then its probably aluminum Rub the inside with steel wool, clean well and try vinegar No foam No aluminum I don't think they'd go to the trouble of mag casting a dust cover. Not enough to gain there, Edited September 20, 2023 by cliffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyechuck Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 10:11 PM, N201MKTurbo said: I’m pretty sure all our wheels are magnesium. I tested one of my damaged caps today. Did the vinegar test, no reaction. Filed some material off and tried to light it. No response. It seems these are aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyechuck Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Was able to complete a weld repair on my caps. No a job for an average welder. Wentworth just responded. They have stock @ $45 per cap. Beats new at $500 and up any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOH Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 I can't help but ask, what problem does a score from the cotter pin on the inside of a dust cap actually cause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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