PT20J Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 Christmas is coming. What's the coolest tool you have in your toolbox? 2 Quote
0TreeLemur Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 Now that's just not fair. That's like asking "which child is your favorite?" 3 Quote
Marauder Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 Christmas is coming. What's the coolest tool you have in your toolbox?Coolest or most useful? Coolest is the wire tracer that allows you to follow the path of a wire through its meandering path in our planes. The most useful is a gyroscopic screwdriver for the 9,124 screws they used on my plane. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote
JimB Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Marauder said: Coolest is the wire tracer that allows you to follow the path of a wire through its meandering path in our planes. Biggest "Wow" factor tool for those non-mechanic types that might be hanging around the hangar seems to be a borescope. What wire tracer do you have? Quote
EricJ Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 Maybe competing for both coolest and most useful is a safety cable set. i.e., use safety cables instead of safety wires. Way faster, cleaner, and less hazardous than safety wire, but more expensive. I don't actually have one but a friend does and I've used it on his airplane a bunch. It's the only way to secure propeller fasteners on non-fixed-pitch props. 2 Quote
MooneyMitch Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 Ooooh, this is going to be a super fun and educational thread! 1 Quote
DonMuncy Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, EricJ said: Maybe competing for both coolest and most useful is a safety cable set. i.e., use safety cables instead of safety wires. Way faster, cleaner, and less hazardous than safety wire, but more expensive. I don't actually have one but a friend does and I've used it on his airplane a bunch. It's the only way to secure propeller fasteners on non-fixed-pitch props. And deny one's self the fun of twisting safety wire? 2 Quote
JimB Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, GeeBee said: I cannot resist Oh Wow..... My Mooney is screaming in agony just looking at those.... 1 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, GeeBee said: I cannot resist I have those. They don’t seem that effective. Better to just drill the heads off. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 4 hours ago, EricJ said: Maybe competing for both coolest and most useful is a safety cable set. i.e., use safety cables instead of safety wires. Way faster, cleaner, and less hazardous than safety wire, but more expensive. I don't actually have one but a friend does and I've used it on his airplane a bunch. It's the only way to secure propeller fasteners on non-fixed-pitch props. A couple of my airline mechanic friends say they are the BOMB! But they are expensive! And so are the cables. Quote
GeeBee Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 First cursive hand writing, now safety wiring. The youth will have no skills. 4 7 Quote
Greg Ellis Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 I think the latest Borescope from Vividia is pretty cool. The high res images are awesome and very clear. Just a great tool to have to help diagnose issues before it's a real problem. Quote
201Steve Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 The coolest tool is the one that fits. Usually a bent harbor freight wrench. 2 1 Quote
MikeOH Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 23 hours ago, 0TreeLemur said: Now that's just not fair. That's like asking "which child is your favorite?" Easy, the child that buys me the coolest tool, of course Quote
FlyingDude Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 11 hours ago, EricJ said: Maybe competing for both coolest and most useful is a safety cable set. i.e., use safety cables instead of safety wires. Way faster, cleaner, and less hazardous than safety wire, but more expensive. I don't actually have one but a friend does and I've used it on his airplane a bunch. It's the only way to secure propeller fasteners on non-fixed-pitch props. Man! I'll have my wife get me a set! She'll really appreciate the 66 seconds I'll shave off of my usual 4-5 hrs of hangar time ... But... ... Jokes aside, it might be a life saver when safetying the oil screen... Quote
Joshua Blackh4t Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 The safety cables look good. BUT what happens when you're halfway through an oil change and there is no lockwire left and the nearest is an hour away by plane and you have the only plane and it needs to be lockwired...... I like the idea, but not so good for where I often find myself 1 Quote
FlyingDude Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, Joshua Blackh4t said: The safety cables look good. BUT what happens when you're halfway through an oil change and there is no lockwire left and the nearest is an hour away by plane and you have the only plane and it needs to be lockwired...... I like the idea, but not so good for where I often find myself You go to the nearest Walmart, get some steel hanging wire, get the job done and once you reach the place where things can be procured, you redo it per ac43.13... 1 Quote
Pinecone Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 1) Monitor your stock of wire so you don't run out. 2) Keep a spool of safety wire handy. 1 Quote
A64Pilot Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 20 hours ago, EricJ said: Maybe competing for both coolest and most useful is a safety cable set. i.e., use safety cables instead of safety wires. Way faster, cleaner, and less hazardous than safety wire, but more expensive. I don't actually have one but a friend does and I've used it on his airplane a bunch. It's the only way to secure propeller fasteners on non-fixed-pitch props. Army used those on the 30MM chain gun, most of safety wiring is gone or going away, for instance there isn’t one piece of it on the GE T-700 series engines and that design is at least 40 years old by now. I’ve always wondered about how useful safety wire really is, for instance have you ever heard of an auto oil filter coming loose? Look at all the things we don’t safety like spark plugs, plug wires and magneto caps, cylinder base nuts to name a few 1 Quote
RoundTwo Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 21 hours ago, EricJ said: Maybe competing for both coolest and most useful is a safety cable set. i.e., use safety cables instead of safety wires. Way faster, cleaner, and less hazardous than safety wire, but more expensive. I don't actually have one but a friend does and I've used it on his airplane a bunch. It's the only way to secure propeller fasteners on non-fixed-pitch props. That’s pretty slick, but holy smokes those cables are expensive! Quote
Shadrach Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, A64Pilot said: Army used those on the 30MM chain gun, most of safety wiring is gone or going away, for instance there isn’t one piece of it on the GE T-700 series engines and that design is at least 40 years old by now. I’ve always wondered about how useful safety wire really is, for instance have you ever heard of an auto oil filter coming loose? Look at all the things we don’t safety like spark plugs, plug wires and magneto caps, cylinder base nuts to name a few It's interesting to ponder why one almost never encounters a loose fastener held in place by safety wire. I know I have never seen it in decades of being around aircraft and aircraft maintenance. I think it's more likely that safety wire simply makes it much less likely that a fastener will be left improperly torqued/tightened. I am a proponent of torque seal when performing critical maintenance. It started out of necessity because owner assisted mx means two people are involved in the process. I now use it in many non aviation maintenance projects. The likelihood of missed fastener increases when a project spans a few days (say hanging an engine). Safety wire gives a good visual verification that things are as they should be. Torque seal does the same with less effort. It's clear that auto manufactures share that thinking. There is no safety wire on either of my autos, but almost all critical fasteners were marked with torque seal during assembly. Quote
takair Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shadrach said: It's interesting to ponder why one almost never encounters a loose fastener held in place by safety wire. I know I have never seen it in decades of being around aircraft and aircraft maintenance. I think it's more likely that safety wire simply makes it much less likely that a fastener will be left improperly torqued/tightened. I am a proponent of torque seal when performing critical maintenance. It started out of necessity because owner assisted mx means two people are involved in the process. I now use it in many non aviation maintenance projects. The likelihood of missed fastener increases when a project spans a few days (say hanging an engine). Safety wire gives a good visual verification that things are as they should be. Torque seal does the same with less effort. It's clear that auto manufactures share that thinking. There is no safety wire on either of my autos, but almost all critical fasteners were marked with torque seal during assembly. Good observation. You are probably right to a large extent. In 30 years on fixed wing (helicopters are a little different) I may have seen one or two situations where torque with safety wire was questionable, that’s not much. That said, I have seen a few situations where hardware was loose when cotter pinned. I think this might be because the nut needs to be clocked to the hole and might not yield optimal torque….likely from the installer not following specific requirements. The most interesting example is the fact that most engine cylinder hold downs are not safetied, but torque stripe is even more helpful here. Quote
Shadrach Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, takair said: Good observation. You are probably right to a large extent. In 30 years on fixed wing (helicopters are a little different) I may have seen one or two situations where torque with safety wire was questionable, that’s not much. That said, I have seen a few situations where hardware was loose when cotter pinned. I think this might be because the nut needs to be clocked to the hole and might not yield optimal torque….likely from the installer not following specific requirements. The most interesting example is the fact that most engine cylinder hold downs are not safetied, but torque stripe is even more helpful here. Cylinder hold downs are a good example. The AN bolts that hold the engine mount to the firewall are another. I dislike installations that don't have a single point of reference as a spec. A castellated nut with a cotter is almost always a compromise. Torqueing fuel injectors is another, you have an acceptable torque range and an acceptable range for clocking the injector ("A" between ~4:00 and 8:00). Sometimes getting to both specs means being on the very edge of one the other or both. It's acceptable from a practical standpoint but not very satisfying. 1 Quote
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