SCAM Avionics and aviation items … please be careful

[stormflyer]

Using these names and email address:

kraee@hotmail.com
Nadiyah Dalton

dmsawmill@yahoo.com
Larry Shepherd

ifepaul19@gmail.com
Name - Sylvia

Items they are scamming:

From: NADIYAH DALTON <kraee@hotmail.com>
Date: July 26, 2022 at 14:36:34 CDT
Subject: New avionics for sale


1. redline sidewinder $1000
2. Bose A20 with Blue Tooth $600
3. Two spinners off a Beechcraft Baron 55 Colemill $1000
4. Powertow Thundervolt tug as new with Baron and Mooney $2000
5. Lightspeed Tango Headset  $400
6. Garmin GTN750 $9000
7. JPI EDM-830 $1500
8. Continental IO 520b $10,000
9. PS Engineering PMA6000B $400
10. PS Engineering PMA 450A audio panel $1500
11. Brand new B-Kool Portable Cooler 12 volt  $200
12.Bendix King KI-204 Indicator $650
13.Altimeter  Removed from a 28V 1972 Cessna 310Q $280
14.SANDEL SN3500 P/N 3500-002 $4000
15. Stratus II complete system kit. Part No. 153070-000019 $200
16. Garmin GNS430W pn 011-01060-40. 14/28v with tray and connectors $4000
17 . Stratus ESGi Transponder (ADS-B In/Out) $1200
18. Powertow Supertow II $1500
19. AKG Aviation (Harmon Kardon) Headset $500
20 .Lightspeed Zulu 3 LEMO $300
21.Brightline Bag $150
22. King radio altimeter system $700
23 .Garmin GTR-225B 16W comm $2000
24.Garmin GAD 29B $350
25 . GI 275 $1500

Edited August 8, 2022 by stormflyer

[MisfitSELF]

On the Mooney Pilots Facebook group, also watch out for guys who just joined that day or the day prior trying to sell a bunch of avionics.  Also suspicious is when you look at their profile, it doesn't go very far back or it's nothing but a bunch of random aircraft photos (that that by itself isn't a bad thing...).

[Hank]

People still use Facebook??? Never been on it, don't have or want an account. 

[KB4]

1st clue, everything is well below market value.  1st item sells for 1500 easy and fast. It’s a 2 month wait for new, No way he has 1 at 1k unsold. Or a 430W for 4, comon Alan can’t even beat that.

 

when it’s 2 good to be true… 

[Parker_Woodruff]

1 hour ago, Hank said:

People still use Facebook??? Never been on it, don't have or want an account. 

Yep.  I returned after about 5 years off of it because it's very good for business.  The pilot groups are decent, but not much else...

[FlyingDude]

I kind of hope that these are just bareback scammers, i.e. advertising non-existent "inventory" ... as opposed to common thieves trying to sell off what they pulled out of parked planes.

[Ragsf15e]

I wish society could catch these guys and offer some jail or at least community service no matter if they’re stealing stuff to sell or just trying to get cc numbers.  Either way it should be a crime again.

[Brandt]

On 8/8/2022 at 11:32 AM, MisfitSELF said:

On the Mooney Pilots Facebook group, also watch out for guys who just joined that day or the day prior trying to sell a bunch of avionics.  Also suspicious is when you look at their profile, it doesn't go very far back or it's nothing but a bunch of random aircraft photos (that that by itself isn't a bad thing...).

And loads of fake t shirt ads. 

[FlyingDude]

22 hours ago, Ragsf15e said:

Either way it should be a crime again.

...as in???  It used to be but it no longer is?

[FlyingDude]

@Parker_Woodruff Any idea on the annual volume of stolen avionics market?  If it's big enough, maybe insurance companies can push avionics companies (Garmin, Dynon etc) to come up with an immobilizer design...

[Ragsf15e]

3 hours ago, FlyingDude said:

...as in???  It used to be but it no longer is?

It was said sarcastically, but I don’t feel like we treat these “minor” offenses as offenses anymore.  Maybe we never did?

[jetdriven]

Yeah I got scammed out of $3700 for a stormscope WX 500. He had photos, he had an 813o wirh seria l number. All that. Steal a 51$ item from Walmart and  see what happens to you.  They should apply the same standard.  Theft is theft. 

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, jetdriven said:

Yeah I got scammed out of $3700 for a stormscope WX 500. He had photos, he had an 813o wirh seria l number. All that. Steal a 51$ item from Walmart and  see what happens to you.  They should apply the same standard.  Theft is theft. 

Steal $13.00 at a Walmart in Colorado and the police will tackle you to the ground and break bones.

I too got scammed on a purchase on Barnstormers for an audio panel.  I laid out my case to the Baroness(hostess) and got all of his ads labelled as a scammer.  Never got my money back but took great satisfaction in sending him links to all of his ads.

 

[hubcap]

In reality, nobody prosecutes theft crimes unless it is a very significant amount of $$. Even armed robbery won’t get you jail time in a big city.

[Tony Starke]

Unfortunately the biggest thieves are in charge of things right now. So the petty thieves have nothing to worry about. 

[jetdriven]

1 hour ago, hubcap said:

In reality, nobody prosecutes theft crimes unless it is a very significant amount of $$. Even armed robbery won’t get you jail time in a big city.

At least you get arrested and charged. In the case of theft on the Internet there’s no consequence there is literally no reason not to try. And I must have been the first one, because after we googled this guys name on the Internet through about 10 people who got scammed by him for a few thousand bucks apiece.At least you get arrested and charged. In the case of theft of the Internet there’s no consequence there is literally no reason not to try. 

[Will.iam]

One of the reasons i like ebay with reviews. I will not buy anything that doesn’t have at least 100 reviews from customer feedback and looking in those comments any comment about not delivering or incorrect part gets a pass by me. 

[Sue Bon]

On 8/8/2022 at 6:52 PM, KB4 said:

1st clue, everything is well below market value.  1st item sells for 1500 easy and fast. It’s a 2 month wait for new, No way he has 1 at 1k unsold. Or a 430W for 4, comon Alan can’t even beat that.

 

when it’s 2 good to be true… 

How much is a 430W worth? I actually have one that I wouldn't mind selling.... My avionics guy said minimum 4K. Maybe the market here in CH is different than the US because it's smaller.

[Parker_Woodruff]

18 hours ago, FlyingDude said:

@Parker_Woodruff Any idea on the annual volume of stolen avionics market?  If it's big enough, maybe insurance companies can push avionics companies (Garmin, Dynon etc) to come up with an immobilizer design...

It happens but no idea truly how often.

[stormflyer]

On 8/8/2022 at 5:12 PM, Ragsf15e said:

I wish society could catch these guys and offer some jail or at least community service no matter if they’re stealing stuff to sell or just trying to get cc numbers.  Either way it should be a crime again.

Agree 100%, it is criminal and any knowledge of their real identity should be reported.

[Pinecone]

Is there any clearing house of avionics reported stolen?  Even by each manfacturer?

So a shop can check and see if this piece or used gear is reported stolen, or even a potential buyer

 

[ArtVandelay]

Is there any clearing house of avionics reported stolen?  Even by each manfacturer?
So a shop can check and see if this piece or used gear is reported stolen, or even a potential buyer
 

Yes, I heard Garmin does, and will not allow databases to be updated for stolen units. First thing you ask for pictures of front and back, front to check condition and back to get model/serial numbers.
Often for front they will use pictures they downloaded because they don’t even have the unit, always get the pictures of the back end.

[0TreeLemur]

On 8/10/2022 at 3:16 AM, Sue Bon said:

How much is a 430W worth? I actually have one that I wouldn't mind selling.... My avionics guy said minimum 4K. Maybe the market here in CH is different than the US because it's smaller.

The lowest price I've seen folks ask for 430W's lately is in the low 6 AMUs.