M20F Reclining Seats

[gwav8or]

I'm in the process of buying a 1967 M20F and was just wondering if all of the M20F models have reclining seats in the front and/or back?

[Marauder]

I'm in the process of buying a 1967 M20F and was just wondering if all of the M20F models have reclining seats in the front and/or back?

The 75s have reclining rear seats but fixed front ones.


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[Bryan G]

My 67’ has reclining front and reclining back, split seats. There is a round knob on the side of the front seats, with 3 different positions. Back seats have a lever on the side panel that you pull up on to adjust maybe 3 different ways as well.

[Bryan G]

8 minutes ago, Bryan G said:

My 67’ has reclining front and reclining back, split seats. There is a round knob on the side of the front seats, with 3 different positions. Back seats have a lever on the side panel that you pull up on to adjust maybe 3 different ways as well.

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Bryan G

[gwav8or]

 

Very nice, thank you!


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[M20F]

The 67 by all accounts is the most awesome Mooney.  Often folks with Acclaims will say otherwise, they would be wrong. 

[Bryan G]

And the back seats are simple to remove and reinstall, no tools required. Can’t beat the 67!

[Ragsf15e]

1 hour ago, Bryan G said:

And the back seats are simple to remove and reinstall, no tools required. Can’t beat the 67!

No tools, only a large and colorful vocabulary required to remove the back seats of my ‘68 f.  

They do have a recline mechanism, but it doesn’t move them much.

[Marauder]

No tools, only a large and colorful vocabulary required to remove the back seats of my ‘68 f.  

Ain’t that the truth!


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[redcatcher27]

On 8/6/2022 at 6:52 PM, Bryan G said:

 

 

OMGoodness! Your interior is incredibly nice. Where did you have it done?

 

 

[AdamJD]

16 hours ago, redcatcher27 said:

 

OMGoodness! Your interior is incredibly nice. Where did you have it done?

 

 

I second that question.  Those rear seats look great.  Mine are headrest-less.  And no matter how hard I've tried, I can't find a headrest that fits.  

 

For the OP, my 67F is the same.  Reclining front and rear seats.  Front are on a wheel with three positions.  That wheel is wearing out on both seats, so I'm in search of a solution.  One time my seat slipped into recline on takeoff.  So now I'm hyper aware on takeoff and try not to put pressure on my seat.  But I would like to find or repair the mechanism.

 

+1 for the rear seats being 'easily' removable.  I agree that verbal abuse is required to get them out though.

[Yetti]

75 F have 4 position adjustable seat back front.    And reclining seats back. The back seat back rests are easy to remove but a bioootch to get back in.

[Raymond J1]

Nevertheless, sometimes, for the 67 F, I want to build a connecting shaft between the left and right wheels of the front seats!

[DCarlton]

On 12/8/2022 at 6:04 PM, AdamJD said:

Front are on a wheel with three positions.  That wheel is wearing out on both seats, so I'm in search of a solution.  One time my seat slipped into recline on takeoff.  So now I'm hyper aware on takeoff and try not to put pressure on my seat.  But I would like to find or repair the mechanism.

 

I was able to buy those adjustable seat cam / wheels with the lobes several years ago new for my '67.  I believe I bought them from an MSC; perhaps SWTA at the time.  My old ones were really worn out and the seat back position would slip too.  I may still have one of the old ones.  It could perhaps be used to make parts without taking a seat out of service.  

[MarkW]

You’re reading about vintage Mooney seats, so…

I have these, factory originals from a 62 C-model. (I switched to a different set with headrests as part of a recent upgrade.) They’re perfectly functional. I don’t want to throw them away. But I don’t have a lot of room in the garage, either. 
 

Anybody need ‘em…? We can work something out, I’m sure. 

[Raymond J1]

I would like to find the original seats of a 67 F with the brown fabric / leather, to be able to redo the identical. This is the only thing that is not original on my machine.

[Bryan G]

@redcatcher27 @AdamJD

Thanks!

I ordered the side panels and carpet from aerotex, same with the rear seat cloth material. I had a local upholstery shop remake the four headrests and do the rear seats, they came out great. I used Bruce’s restoration kit to fix and repaint all the plastics. All in, $1308 for the panels, carpet, and plastic restoration and another $400 for 4x headrests, two seat backs, and one rear seat cushion.

[hammdo]

What paint code and paint did you use? I need to do some touch ups and repairs on mine. I have the same cream color. Yours looks nice!

-Don

[Bryan G]

4 hours ago, hammdo said:

What paint code and paint did you use? I need to do some touch ups and repairs on mine. I have the same cream color. Yours looks nice!

-Don

The color I decided on was Ivory Silk, Satin Rust-oleum painters touch. They sell it at Home Depot. It’s a warmer color than the original that I had, but I really like it. 

 

[Teddyhherrera]

On 12/8/2022 at 7:11 PM, Yetti said:

75 F have 4 position adjustable seat back front.    And reclining seats back. The back seat back rests are easy to remove but a bioootch to get back in.

Ive had a 75 f for about 8 months and had no idea the seats reclined... How does it work and do i have that option?

[Eight8Victor]

35 minutes ago, Teddyhherrera said:

Ive had a 75 f for about 8 months and had no idea the seats reclined... How does it work and do i have that option?

If the rears are reclining seats you will have the lever  (see red circle). The fronts are adjustable with this knob.

Credit: Bryan G for the pics.

 

Edited December 31, 2022 by Eight8Victor

[Marauder]

Ive had a 75 f for about 8 months and had no idea the seats reclined... How does it work and do i have that option?

Only the rear seats in 1975 F recline. The front seats have a rotating knob that can change the angle a bit but I certainly wouldn’t call it a reclining seat.

What is weird is that your rear seat looks like it is a one piece back. My F has separate seat backs that can be reclined into the baggage area by pulling a lever on the side panels next to the rear passengers.



My rear seats look like these. Not sure why your’s is a bench seat back.




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[Teddyhherrera]

I'll look next time. I also think it's odd that i have a bench. I know i have the knob up front. But i suspect the plugs are where you all said the lever was. Also, my Mooney says 1975 in some places and 1976 in others. Sn is 22-1317. I wonder if that's why it has a bench?

[Teddyhherrera]

Just went through pics... There's nothing there...

[Marauder]

Just went through pics... There's nothing there...

Maybe one of the 77 J owners can chime in what they have for a rear seat. The 76 F model was the foundation for 77 J. Maybe there was a change in the seat style in late F models in prep for the J introduction.


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