Raptor05121 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 This is gorgeous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabremech Posted April 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Working on fitting the lower cowling. I expected to have an issue with the carb air box and that is a definite need to redesign. The much more sloped cowling is going to require a new lower profile carb air box. What I didn’t expect was an issue with the landing light. I found that the O-360 muffler hits it. I now understand why as the difference with the fuel injected O-360’s moves the muffler down and aft. O-360 is up and forward due to the carb. I will have to move the landing light to the center on the carbureted Mooneys. I’m also thinking I will need to move one of the air fittings on the muffler shroud. I did manage to get it on today and do some initial fitting to verify if I’ll have any other issues. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 That's a beautiful work of art! We are grateful for you and your presence in our Mooney world, and most grateful for your presence and assistance on MS. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted April 11, 2020 Report Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Sabremech said: Working on fitting the lower cowling. I expected to have an issue with the carb air box and that is a definite need to redesign. The much more sloped cowling is going to require a new lower profile carb air box. What I didn’t expect was an issue with the landing light. I found that the O-360 muffler hits it. I now understand why as the difference with the fuel injected O-360’s moves the muffler down and aft. O-360 is up and forward due to the carb. I will have to move the landing light to the center on the carbureted Mooneys. I’m also thinking I will need to move one of the air fittings on the muffler shroud. I did manage to get it on today and do some initial fitting to verify if I’ll have any other issues. I know a fellow who has a C with a fresh engine that ought to have a SabreCowl II. @AGL Aviation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach Posted April 11, 2020 Report Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Sabremech said: Working on fitting the lower cowling. I expected to have an issue with the carb air box and that is a definite need to redesign. The much more sloped cowling is going to require a new lower profile carb air box. What I didn’t expect was an issue with the landing light. I found that the O-360 muffler hits it. I now understand why as the difference with the fuel injected O-360’s moves the muffler down and aft. O-360 is up and forward due to the carb. I will have to move the landing light to the center on the carbureted Mooneys. I’m also thinking I will need to move one of the air fittings on the muffler shroud. I did manage to get it on today and do some initial fitting to verify if I’ll have any other issues. Really solid work David! I cannot wait to see the install completed. Looks as if it may make the legacy birds look as modern as any Mooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takair Posted April 11, 2020 Report Share Posted April 11, 2020 Very nice! What is the squarish inset area? Are you doing louvered cooling there? Apologies if it’s been previously discussed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonFlyer68 Posted April 11, 2020 Report Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, takair said: Very nice! What is the squarish inset area? Are you doing louvered cooling there? Apologies if it’s been previously discussed. While your guess is as good as mine, I am thinking the squarish things on the side are perhaps where access doors might go. Any other guesses before we get the real answer from the man? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabremech Posted April 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2020 8 hours ago, takair said: Very nice! What is the squarish inset area? Are you doing louvered cooling there? Apologies if it’s been previously discussed. Those will be maintenance access panels on both sides. It will also be able to have louvers added in the future by just switching out the panel if needed say for a turbo’d Mooney. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danb Posted April 11, 2020 Report Share Posted April 11, 2020 Beautiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabremech Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Fitting continues with cutting open the access panel openings and trial fitting a cowl flap. Biggest challenge is designing a new carb air box to fit. I have an idea that if it fits will make it fairly easy and cost effective. Going to make it out of wood to test my theory. David 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 I'm very happy to see that you put the access panels back on both sides! Makes it so much easier to change the oil! As a 13-year C owner, I've only dropped the lower cowling twice, and my A&P did it once working on the carb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Hank said: I'm very happy to see that you put the access panels back on both sides! Makes it so much easier to change the oil! As a 13-year C owner, I've only dropped the lower cowling twice, and my A&P did it once working on the carb. One of my most favorite aircraft activities....... dropping the lower cowling on a C, E or F ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabremech Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Hank said: I'm very happy to see that you put the access panels back on both sides! Makes it so much easier to change the oil! As a 13-year C owner, I've only dropped the lower cowling twice, and my A&P did it once working on the carb. I lost count the number of times my cowlings have been on and off ! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Sabremech said: I lost count the number of times my cowlings have been on and off ! I was most grateful for my Ovation cowlings....... easy and quick ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcb Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 3/30/2020 at 6:09 PM, M20Doc said: There’s just no replacement for excess horsepower! Clarence Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey and more money 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcb Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/10/2020 at 5:05 PM, Sabremech said: Working on fitting the lower cowling. I expected to have an issue with the carb air box and that is a definite need to redesign. The much more sloped cowling is going to require a new lower profile carb air box. What I didn’t expect was an issue with the landing light. I found that the O-360 muffler hits it. I now understand why as the difference with the fuel injected O-360’s moves the muffler down and aft. O-360 is up and forward due to the carb. I will have to move the landing light to the center on the carbureted Mooneys. I’m also thinking I will need to move one of the air fittings on the muffler shroud. I did manage to get it on today and do some initial fitting to verify if I’ll have any other issues. AWESOME is all that can be said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcstealth Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, wcb said: Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey and more money Name the year, and singer/songwriter? Don't ask @MooneyMitch for the answer. Edited April 13, 2020 by Mcstealth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, Mcstealth said: Name the year, and singer/songwriter? What? Another country tune? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcstealth Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 minute ago, MooneyMitch said: What? Another country tune? Allergies bothering you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mcstealth said: Name the year, and singer/songwriter? Don't ask @MooneyMitch for the answer. Tom T Hall wrote it and performed it, but I don't know when. About the only thing I miss of the daily commute is surfing the Sirius channels... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbridges Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 7:34 AM, Sabremech said: Those will be maintenance access panels on both sides. It will also be able to have louvers added in the future by just switching out the panel if needed say for a turbo’d Mooney. Excellent idea. I hate dropping the bottom cowling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, rbridges said: Excellent idea. I hate dropping the bottom cowling. Try it with a 3-blade . . . . There's a reason I remember every time mine has been off . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67 m20F chump Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 How are you going to attach it to the airplane? Piano hinge or the factory fasteners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabremech Posted April 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, 67 m20F chump said: How are you going to attach it to the airplane? Piano hinge or the factory fasteners? Planning on using factory fasteners and picking up the existing locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabremech Posted April 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 No turning back now. Final fit to drill for the firewall camlocs under way. Also fit the new prototype carb air box for the C & G models. Minor adjustment to clear the cowling found during initial fit but looks like this will work well. Also fit the plug to the prop hub for the forward bulkhead to make the carbon fiber spinner. Making some progress. David 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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