LED Replacement for Whelen Model #70303 Light

[carusoam]

Typical Long Body lighting package may need…

the Ultras have different wing tip light requirements…

1) Landing light 1

2) Landing light 2

3) Taxi light 1

4) Taxi light 2

5) Recog light 1

6) Recog light 2

7) L Nav light (with strobe)

8) R Nav light (with strobe)

9) Tail light rudder (strobe)

10) Tail light wingtip 1

11) Tail light wingtip 2

12) Belly strobe

13) Ice light… probably not an LED application

Did I miss any…?

PP dreaming out loud…

Best regards,

-a-

[RoundTwo]

12 hours ago, carusoam said:

Typical Long Body lighting package may need…

the Ultras have different wing tip light requirements…

1) Landing light 1

2) Landing light 2

3) Taxi light 1

4) Taxi light 2

5) Recog light 1

6) Recog light 2

7) L Nav light (with strobe)

8) R Nav light (with strobe)

9) Tail light rudder (strobe)

10) Tail light wingtip 1

11) Tail light wingtip 2

12) Belly strobe

Did I miss any…?

PP dreaming out loud…

Best regards,

-a-

I think you forgot the flood uplights to illuminate the tail.

[carusoam]

22 minutes ago, RoundTwo said:

I think you forgot the flood uplights to illuminate the tail.

Made me think harder… reminded me of another external light…

Similarly, we have an ice light for the Fiki systems….

Probably, LEDs are too cold for that application…

Best regards,

-a-

[OSUAV8TER]

I am receiving the 28V LED recognition lights tomorrow so I am going to start shipping them as quickly as I can. Once pre-orders are complete I will have inventory for future orders. Links are below! 

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-Mooney-28V-Recognition-Light_p_337.html <-- 28V Mooney LED Recognition Light Link

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-Mooney-14V-Recognition-Light_p_140.html <-- 14V Mooney LED Recognition Light Link

[OSUAV8TER]

IN STOCK AND SHIPPING! Finally. 

[OSUAV8TER]

What a beauty! 

[GeeBee]

Got mine yesterday, thank you!

[Scottknoll]

Anyone have any feedback on the install process yet? We just received ours as well. There doesn’t seem to be much attached to the bulb mounting wise. Just a small black housing on the back with two wires coming out.

[Fly Boomer]

Has anyone installed these yet?  What happens after removing these two screws holding the lens top and bottom (and after I replace the screws and Tinnerman washers)?

 

 

[Scott Ashton]

3 hours ago, Fly Boomer said:

Has anyone installed these yet?  What happens after removing these two screws holding the lens top and bottom (and after I replace the screws and Tinnerman washers)?

 

 

If you remove the screws, the lens should slide off of the wingtip exposing the strobes.  The back of the incandescent light has a rectangular spring clip that you have to work out so you can slide the light out through the front.  Cut the wires, splice in the new light, and reinstall and put the clip back onto the back of the new light. - make sure you run the wires THROUGH the spring clip!

 

[Airways]

So no need to remove the strobes in order to get the recog light out ? Just the lens cover ?

[ArtVandelay]

So no need to remove the strobes in order to get the recog light out ? Just the lens cover ?

Correct, but the LEDs are polarized, so you will need to identify the positive wire.

[Brian Tesar]

Tom, 

The spec sheet shows the LEDs as non-polarized and there are no markings on the wires to differentiate. 

[OSUAV8TER]

They are non-polarity sensitive and it matters how they are oriented. In the photo I provided, that is the correct way.

[rbp]

45 minutes ago, OSUAV8TER said:

-polarity sensitive

the photo cuts through the middle of your sentence!

*NOT* polarity sensitive

 

[ArtVandelay]

the photo cuts through the middle of your sentence!

*NOT* polarity sensitive
 

They must have some added circuitry to that, but I’m surprised why they didn’t add voltage regulator as well so they can handle 14v or 28v with same model, pretty easy to do?

[OSUAV8TER]

Just now, ArtVandelay said:

They must have some added circuitry to that, but I’m surprised why they didn’t add voltage regulator as well so they can handle 14v or 28v with same model, pretty easy to do?

They tried to do that but the resistor in the 28V airplanes caused the change to do two separate models.

[Fly Boomer]

8 minutes ago, ArtVandelay said:

They must have some added circuitry to that, but I’m surprised why they didn’t add voltage regulator as well so they can handle 14v or 28v with same model, pretty easy to do?

I know someone who put in some low-cost LEDs.  Turns out they had some kind of buck/boost circuitry to accommodate a range of voltages and they drove his radios crazy.

[Marc_B]

12 hours ago, OSUAV8TER said:

What a beauty! 

@OSUAV8TER Don't you mean "WAT a beauty"??    Just got mine today.  Looking forward to getting them on!

[FlyingScot]

Put mine in today - they look and work great - and no melted spot!

[Brian Tesar]

Installed ours yesterday. They work great. We had them on for 5 minutes in the hangar and they produce no noticeable heat on the lens.

[ArtVandelay]

Now you need to replace the incandescent strobe/position lights with LEDs.

[OSUAV8TER]

@FlyingScot and @Brian Tesar when you are ready to upgrade to the Orion 650E, I have them too! They look really nice. I'm glad this will help permanently remedy this problem.

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-28V-Green-6502GE-Wingtip-Light_p_170.html

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-28V-Red-6502RE-Wingtip-Light_p_169.html

[Fly Boomer]

10 hours ago, Brian Tesar said:

Installed ours yesterday. They work great. We had them on for 5 minutes in the hangar and they produce no noticeable heat on the lens.

I know where I can buy the lights -- what I want is your hangar floor!

[OSUAV8TER]

I just got emailed this photo of this lens... I haven't seen one this bad before! For the record this is not just a Mooney unique problem. My buddy who flies a T-6 told me that with the big old PAR-56 incandescent lamps they have a published limitation that it can only be ran on the ground for several seconds before it melts the lens. Getting it into the air to help it cool is critical. LEDs are amazing!