Any M20A models besides mine

[jdawg]

Any other old school M20A's around other than mine, Canada CYXJ

 

Class of '59. 'Jealous Mistress'

[carusoam]

 

We have a couple around here.

Somebody recently posted what the wooden wings actually look like without paint on them.

How long have you been the care taker of the mistress?

Best regrads,

-a-

Edited April 7, 2017 by carusoam

[jdawg]

13 minutes ago, carusoam said:

 

We have a couple around here.

Somebody recently posted what the wooden wings actually look like without paint on them.

How long have you been the care taker of the mistress?

Best regrads,

-a-

I've had her for a year now, I can't even express how great she is too fly and very economical 

Where is here carusoam?

[carusoam]

Jdawg,

sorry, my bad...  I meant here as in here at MooneySpace.   

I think Kerry may be an M20A.  

I'll give a look.

Best regards,

-a-

Kerry's M20A is here....

https://mooneyspace.com/profile/7488-kerry/

 

Edited April 7, 2017 by carusoam

[jdawg]

26 minutes ago, bluehighwayflyer said:

A previous owner of your bird used to be a member here on MooneySpace. I can't remember his name but if you search on terms like "wood" and "M20A" you will find him. 

Welcome aboard!  She is a beauty. 

Jim

Thanks Jim. Russ Anderson owned before me, took great care of her, hope I can do as good a job. Great page!

[kerry]

Here's a pic of mine.  N8169E is my 3rd wood wing Mooney.  http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000289481.html  I really like them!

[Hank]

Check out Dave's plane, N1960A. I think he built a website around it after changing the registration number. He is in the MAPA'S mailing list, but don't remember seeing him here.

[mike20papa]

Flew mine just an hour ago during the lunch "hour" - local and into KCLL.  Based in Bryan Tx KCFD.  Serial #1513, N8335E   Agreed, they are great performing AC.

[Vance Harral]

These pictures here are great.  The original A model evokes everything classic about Mooney lines and curves, and the individual specimens look well cared for.  Congratulations to you all!

mike20papa, I trained at KCLL and have a number of Coulter field landings in my logbook too.  All from "back in the day" when I was a student at A&M.  Love the paint and aluminum combo on your airplane.  Wave at all the Aggies for me next time you're airborne.

[Hector]

There is one based out of KCRG in Jacksonville FL. He is a P-8 driver in the Navy but don't think he is in Mooneyspace


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[Gone]

 Dave Morris flew with us in the 2015 Mooney Caravan and his is a 1960 A model.  I have not seen him on this site in a while.  See http://n1960.com/

 

[Gone]

22 hours ago, jdawg said:

Thanks Jim. Russ Anderson owned before me, took great care of her, hope I can do as good a job. Great page!

I flew with him in her once when he was bringing her back from annual.

[201er]

Would anyone who's flown in wood and metal wing care to elaborate on any differences?

[kerry]

I've always said the biggest difference in a wood wing Mooney is that it costs 20K less for a 5 knot speed mod with its smooth like glass wing.  I grew up flying when I was a kid with my Dad  in his C model and have many memories of very harsh jolts in turbulence.  Supposedly my A model has a softer ride in turbulence.  The wood wing flexes which also give you a softer ride on the ground while taxiing.  I once had a fuel leak in the right wing.  It took me about 1 hour to remove the aluminum tank and a local welding shop repair it for $20.  I think wood is a great material to work with and easy to repair.  I would be lying if I said I don't want to upgrade to the J model but I love the affordablity of the A model.

 

[carusoam]

The wood wing is soooo smooth, compared to the seamed and riveted metal one.

-a-

[DXB]

So glad you guys are keeping these old wood wing M20s in the fleet.  They are the true heritage of the breed.

[HRM]

Get in contact with Dave Morris, he is an M20A fanatic and owns one of the nicest ones flying.

His website:  "N1960 - Formerly N6030X - 1960 Mooney M20A".

If memory serves, Bill Wheat signed his fuel door flap as I believe Bill did the original test flight of it.

Frankly, I think MAC should help in the care of any M20A's still flying. They are not only national treasures, but a testament to the Mooney marque.

[MBDiagMan]

Al would be proud.  This was his 20th design.  By the time he got to this one, he knew a little about wood aircraft design and construction.  If Al had not left on the day of type certification, I wonder how long they would have kept making them of wood.

[MBDiagMan]

From where I sit the M20 and M20 A are historic aircraft.  As I understand it these two models are the same except the A has 180HP.  Al and Art were financially strapped and built the wood wing because it was cheap and they had lots of experience with wood design and manufacture.  They were trying to get it certified in order to survive personal financial disaster and left Mooney the day it was certified.  Many crazy circumstances got in their way as far as business success is concerned, but as far as the M20 design, I see it as a masterpiece.  The twentieth design from a man with God given talent and no formal education.

That said I have all the respect in the world for someone willing to fly a 55 + year old wood frame aircraft.  I hope it has been hangared it's entire life.  What a piece of aviation history!

 

thanks for the pictures?

[Raptor05121]

Does anyone on here have an original M20 with the 150hp O-320?

[MBDiagMan]

I wonder how many 150 HP M20's were built?

[Andy95W]

From 1955-1958 they built 200.

(From Those Remarkable Mooneys.)

[mike20papa]

The truth is .. Mooney Inc. needs to submit the original drawings for the M20 and M20A to the Smithsonian.  This is the official repository for historic aircraft and accessible to the public for nominal fees.  In the factory would only submit the wood wing and empenage drawings, that would be a start.  I've been trying to piece together a set of drawings and some of mine are faded beyond use.  Even the drawings are hand build jewels - beyond "modern" drafting capabilities.  I also wish the factory would release any other documentation on the wing construction, like photos, only the one exists on the internet.  The wing really is a masterful engineering solution.   The piece count is very low, the concept of preforming the wing skin, the spar being built up as opposed to solid, etc.  Revolutionary at the time, now a model for other composite wing structures.

[jdawg]

I schooled and got my ppl in a 172, I bought FVAA before my training was over so I never flew her until after my training was over. It was like going from a 1980 GMC pu to a Porsche. I know I'll never look back, she's a dream too fly. Handles the down drafts like they're nothing. Love my Mooney, and cheap too fly, amazing.

[MBDiagMan]

Jdawg,

has your wood wing bird always been hangared?  What sort of test and inspection is required in Canada for a wood wing plane?