Looking for opinions and possible partners

[Candy man]

Just started looking for a J. The information on this site has been fantastic. I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on this listing.

 

I'm also looking for possible partners or a partnership in Columbus Ohio.

 

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/rvs/5813956840.html

[mooniac15u]

It's a 1981 not a 1985 as claimed. 

[Candy man]

  On 11/1/2016 at 9:21 PM, mooniac15u said:

 

It's a 1981 not a 1985 as claimed. 

 

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I knew I shouldn't be looking on Craigslist. Nothing good happens there.

[mooniac15u]

  On 11/1/2016 at 9:27 PM, Candy man said:

I knew I shouldn't be looking on Craigslist. Nothing good happens there.

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It could be an innocent mistake.  The poster said he was selling it for someone else.

[Hank]

Opinions are free and easy. Finding a good  partner is almost like finding a good wife . . .

Good luck with your searches!

[bonal]

if its on Craigs list you might want to have the PPI done at the local police station so you dont get robbed other wise looks like a nice 201

[rbridges]

  On 11/1/2016 at 10:15 PM, bonal said:

if its on Craigs list you might want to have the PPI done at the local police station so you dont get robbed other wise looks like a nice 201

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You can also counter his $95K asking price with an offer for $17k cash.  That's typical on craigslist.

[rbridges]

  On 11/1/2016 at 9:21 PM, mooniac15u said:

It's a 1981 not a 1985 as claimed. 

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unless that picture is old, it also has a gns 530 for a GPS, not a gtn 650.  

[DonMuncy]

165 kts @ 9-10 gph?

[mccdeuce]

There's just something about buying an airplane on Craigslist.... it's like buying spark plugs at the Walmart aviation section....

 

looks nice though!

[Bob_Belville]

  On 11/1/2016 at 10:43 PM, DonMuncy said:

165 kts @ 9-10 gph?

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I think he was quoting the original sales department performance numbers. Only slightly hyperbolic. 

[Guest]

  On 11/1/2016 at 10:49 PM, Bob_Belville said:

I think he was quoting the original sales department performance numbers. Only slightly hyperbolic. 

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Are you suggesting that they don't really go that fast? 

Clarence 

[JKSmith]

I had two partners once (2 months) I don't recommend it. Every time I got In my mooney after they flew something new was wrong with it and they both blamed me. It seemed like I was in charge of the care of the plane and they just flew it. When looking for a partner it better not be 

1. Family

2. Non pilots

3. Two friends (you being the oddball) 

what I would look for if I wanted a partner 

1. Someone that loves and has time in mooneys  

2. A flight instructor

3. A previous aircraft owner

4. An A&P

5. Someone that is willing to help with washing, and pilot maintenance. 

Like said previously, finding a good partner is like finding a good partner in a relationship.  

 

[Bob_Belville]

  On 11/2/2016 at 12:07 AM, M20Doc said:

Are you suggesting that they don't really go that fast? 

Clarence 

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I'm thinking that even a PA24-400 has lost a step or two in 50 years.

[carusoam]

Too much funk to be comfortable...

1) The price is full market price.

2) Controller and Trade-a-Plane are the usual Ad rags where planes get sold.  eBay is where unloved and discounted planes hang out...  Craig's list is for the free to a good home, isn't it?

3) When selling something, it is tradition to take the cover off, before snapping for sale pictures.

4) When the time comes that the seller's market is upon us,  This is the sign...! 

Best regards,

-a-

[ArtVandelay]

  On 11/1/2016 at 10:49 PM, Bob_Belville said:

I think he was quoting the original sales department performance numbers. Only slightly hyperbolic. 

From POH:
9.4 161 2600 8000 at 2300lbs
Assuming minimal fuel and smaller pilot, probably could get it to 165.
But only if you have 25 degree timing, strip the antennas, wait for a dry, cold winter day, wax the plane...

[Guest]

  On 11/2/2016 at 3:59 AM, Bob_Belville said:

I'm thinking that even a PA24-400 has lost a step or two in 50 years.

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Not in my case, mine seems to actually be faster than book speeds.  North of 190ktas under 10,000' is the norm.

Clarence

[Bob_Belville]

  On 11/2/2016 at 10:34 AM, M20Doc said:

Not in my case, mine seems to actually be faster than book speeds.  North of 190ktas under 10,000' is the norm.

Clarence

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Hum, @ 194 ktas max and 185 ktas cruise were the Comanche performance claims more conservative than the '60s era Mooneys? 190 ktas doesn't seem all that unrealistic when you consider you have twice as many ponies as my 159 ktas M20E from the same time. Your power to MGW ratio is 43% higher. (53% higher than a heavier M20J)

[thinwing]

  On 11/2/2016 at 10:34 AM, M20Doc said:

Not in my case, mine seems to actually be faster than book speeds.  North of 190ktas under 10,000' is the norm.

Clarence

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So what's the fuel burn feeding 8 cyl?

[Guest]

  On 11/3/2016 at 7:08 PM, thinwing said:

So what's the fuel burn feeding 8 cyl?

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About the same as a Bravo, 36 GPH at take off and 18-20 in cruise.

Clarence