LANCECASPER Posted January 5, 2016 Report Posted January 5, 2016 http://www.flyingmag.com/mooney-launches-m10t-flight-test-program?cmpid=enews010516&spPodID=030&spMailingID=24392302&spUserID=NjcwMTkxNDQ2ODIS1&spJobID=720515878&spReportId=NzIwNTE1ODc4S0 1 Quote
steingar Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 If they wanted a two-seat trainer they could have resurrected the Cadet for a lot less coin. Thing was already certificated. Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 That IS a beautiful airplane... 1 Quote
kmyfm20s Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Piloto said: How much $$$$. The new Panthera will be in the mid 400"s, so it will need to be competitive. Quote
peevee Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 15 hours ago, Antares said: That is an ugly airplane. thank you. in the last thread about the m10 no one else would admit it Quote
FloridaMan Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 thank you. in the last thread about the m10 no one else would admit it Yeah, seriously. It looks like a Mooney fucked a Cirrus and out pops Rumer Willis. 1 Quote
yvesg Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 I don't think the vertical fin /rudder have enough surface. This might prevent speedy spin recovery. Yves Quote
peevee Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Yeah, seriously. It looks like a Mooney fucked a Cirrus and out pops Rumer Willis. we'll see how it performs. I'll fly alladin's rug if it performs well enough... 1 Quote
wishboneash Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Note the N-number N888CN. "8" is a lucky number for the Chinese and CN is of course China. And it looks like Mooney bought this N number .. http://www.jetphotos.net/aircraft/BCHAL-20062 I don't like the looks of the M10 much, but have been more palatable with a better colour scheme. Quote
jrwilson Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Note the N-number N888CN. "8" is a lucky number for the Chinese and CN is of course China. And it looks like Mooney bought this N number .. http://www.jetphotos.net/aircraft/BCHAL-20062 I don't like the looks of the M10 much, but have been more palatable with a better colour scheme. I don't think it is painted at all yet, the carbon fiber is still exposed. I'm sure it will be much better when it is painted. 1 Quote
bonal Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Beauty is a subjective thing its up to the individual. Personally, I think it looks OK. For me there is no such thing as an ugly airplane. Even the ugliest airplane has something that makes it beautiful in some way if nothing else they can fly that in itself is beautiful. 1 Quote
steingar Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Looks aside, it will be interesting to see the price point. They can't go too high or they'll not sell, but they must have a boatload into it since its a clean sheet design. Quote
Jerry 5TJ Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 The full-scale mock-up that Mooney had on display at Oshkosh last July looked pretty sleek. I told the representatives I'd buy the M10J version at (my price redacted), if it really becomes a 10gph JetA burning 160knot 3 seater. 2 Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 The full-scale mock-up that Mooney had on display at Oshkosh last July looked pretty sleek. I told the representatives I'd buy the M10J version at (my price redacted), if it really becomes a 10gph JetA burning 160knot 3 seater. I will elaborate: The M10 is BEAUTIFUL Because: 1. I like Big Spinners and minimal frontal area. 2. I like the swept windscreen. 3. I Like the BIG side Windows. What a GREAT VIEW! 4. I like the upswept win tips and SMOOTH wing. 5. I like the antenna streamlined BACK not UP. 6. I like the Mooney vertical tail. 7. I like the Modern interior, but WANT steam gauge option for cost. 8. I like the idea of a Jet A powered engine. 9. I like the idea of a fast 3 seat airplane. 10. I like that Mooney is building a plane to grow the Chinese market and succeed/keep the doors open. 2 Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 I don't think it is painted at all yet, the carbon fiber is still exposed. I'm sure it will be much better when it is painted. Well duh. Anybody that looks at the photo and says ugly because of paint is a goober and not worthy. It is a test bed plane. I think it is beautiful that Mooney has a new carbon plane in air. Quote
yvesg Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 The tail fin is too small... I am telling you. Yves Quote
peevee Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Well duh. Anybody that looks at the photo and says ugly because of paint is a goober and not worthy. It is a test bed plane. I think it is beautiful that Mooney has a new carbon plane in air. Ain't enough lipstick in the world for that pig. Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 11. Two means of entry/egress! 1 Quote
bradp Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Tail looks a lot like a lancair 360 tail with the Mooney signature design. The 360 suffered from poor rudder authority until they came out with a modified design. I like the large spinner. It looks like they incorporated CAFE foundation M20E spinner almost. (Not to drift too far but does anyone know what happened to that CAFE m20E and how they got an experimental certificate for a production aircraft?... I'll start a new topic for that one). On paper the Pipstrel Panthera is hard to beat. Missing for the world market is a turbo diesel variant, however. But man that is a hot ride. Good looking, super efficient (they claim 198ktas on 10gph at least with the IO-390), trailing link gear, and better useful load than my M20J by almost 200lbs. Plus that CAPS thing. I'd love to fly one of those things as it takes the idea that we all like about our efficient Moonies and brings it into the 21st century. For most of us, I think we'd be most interested in a true 4-place rather than a half hearted 5-place or an expanded 3-place trainer. We all want something that goes fast, sips gas... and looks good. 2 Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 I LOVE the Panthera. Completely different mission. This plane is to be built in China as a TRAINER. The plane is planned to have a retract tarted up version LATER. I would much prefer to train in the Mooney to my 150/152 years ago. Now, going cross country in a Panthera vs. a 201...... Completely different mission Quote
Urs_Wildermuth Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 we'll see how it performs. I'll fly alladin's rug if it performs well enough... Especcially if it comes with Princess Jasmin Quote
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