Skates97 Posted May 7, 2017 Report Posted May 7, 2017 This one fits and may or may not be in use by some of the members here. It is not certified and it only has an 8-degree arc where the certified bulbs are a 10-degree arc. If someone was to use it I would recommend that they keep their other bulb to put back in at annual if their IA requires it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LQG64S/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Quote
Hank Posted May 7, 2017 Report Posted May 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Brian_tii said: Bulb life varies on model of bulb, but some of the more popular ones can be as low as 25 hours. Our Cirrus uses a single par36 4596 250w 28v bulb that kept burning out - rated at only 25 hours. The also common 4509 is only good for 25 hours too. A few models are in the 200-300 hour range, if you look for them. We switched to the aeroleds sunspot 36-4596 which is a 100w led... its bright and so far so good - only had it a couple months though. It's rated for something like 5000 hours with a 5 year warranty. I think Mooneys use the par46 bulbs... you can check out all the various GE models on their site which includes expected bulb life: http://commercial.gelighting.com/catalog/c/Lamps_Specialty_Transportation_Aircraft?q=%3Arelevance%3Afeature-BulbShape%3APAR36%3Afeature-BulbShape%3APAR46&text=# ps - 4522 is rated at 25 hours too - http://commercial.gelighting.com/catalog/p/24700 Vintage Mooneys use PAR46 bulbs, while newer models use PAR36 (definitely the -36 if your landing lights are buried in the wing). When mine burned out after several years (worked fine for preflight at dusk, nothing on landing 3 hours later--base leg towards a parallel ridge and final over the trees, leveling off by altitude until clear of them, in the dark with no light!). So I put in a Whelen Parmetheus and have only turned it off one time in three years, halfway through the first IFR certification in my hangar. 2 Quote
bradp Posted May 7, 2017 Report Posted May 7, 2017 One of the fantastic things is that on taxi landing light comes on and it stays on until engine shutdown since replacing with the LED. +1 for extra visibility without having the bulb go out on final (happened once, landing was fine taxi involved me sticking my arm out with a flashlight in the freezing cold- not fun). Also the current draw on the old incandescent is rather high and had burned out the 40 year old connector. Literally the plastic had melted as I suppose the current started to arc within the connector. . The current draw is low on the LED and my heavy duty connection should be good for many years. Couldn't be happier with my LED. I use the one from Amazon on my lawn tractor and can highly recommend it. 2 Quote
211º Posted May 20, 2017 Report Posted May 20, 2017 Recently replaced the older incandescent type landing light on the 20E with the LED. The difference is current draw is quite amazing - the incandescent would cause the switches to feel warm - no longer. Also feel like the light is much more visible as a running-type light. Nice. Quote
MooneyMitch Posted May 20, 2017 Report Posted May 20, 2017 I recently replaced my GE incandescent landing light with a Whelen PAR 46 LED Plus. Claimed to be 80% brighter than the PAR46 LED version. Haven't had a night opportunity yet. Quote
xcrmckenna Posted May 20, 2017 Report Posted May 20, 2017 I haven't turned my landing light switch off since I installed the new LED light. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote
FloridaMan Posted June 20, 2018 Report Posted June 20, 2018 Rather than start a new thread on this, can we get updates on the state of the art of new LED landing lights? 1 Quote
Raptor05121 Posted June 20, 2018 Report Posted June 20, 2018 Whelen is coming out with a new Parmetheus that draws on modern technology. I think the price point is the same ($250) for 200,000 candlepower. The AeroLEDS will still be the brightest. Quote
MB65E Posted June 20, 2018 Report Posted June 20, 2018 http://ifeproducts.com/ Check out these guys! They are one of the few that offer a normal solution to the PAR 64 lamps. (Airline/corporate jet) . They blow everything out of the water, and are not as expensive as you think. They are made near Chicago. Their par 36 & 46 lamps are bright on spec. I will order some for my next project!! -Matt Quote
FloridaMan Posted June 20, 2018 Report Posted June 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, MB65E said: http://ifeproducts.com/ Check out these guys! They are one of the few that offer a normal solution to the PAR 64 lamps. (Airline/corporate jet) . They blow everything out of the water, and are not as expensive as you think. They are made near Chicago. Their par 36 & 46 lamps are bright on spec. I will order some for my next project!! -Matt Group buy? I'd hate to inundate them with emails requesting info for GA aircraft, but the approach I would use, which is true, is that many light aircraft owners and operators are tightly associated with corporate and commercial operators and, just like FBOs treating the guy in his piston single well may bring him back with his boss in the BBJ, the same goes for products and market penetration. So, with that said, has anybody contacted them? Quote
MB65E Posted June 20, 2018 Report Posted June 20, 2018 Whelen is saying the new lamps are only 85cp and 155cp. Quote
MB65E Posted June 20, 2018 Report Posted June 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Antares said: Group buy? I'd hate to inundate them with emails requesting info for GA aircraft, but the approach I would use, which is true, is that many light aircraft owners and operators are tightly associated with corporate and commercial operators and, just like FBOs treating the guy in his piston single well may bring him back with his boss in the BBJ, the same goes for products and market penetration. So, with that said, has anybody contacted them? I have some emails from them. I can get pricing on the 46&36 lamps. They were great to talk with. They obviously were not harbor freight/ TSC cheap, but they state it will last 3-4 times longer and is better made than the current aviation products. Their price was on par with other MFG. Maybe they can be a supplier for spruce or organize their web site to take orders. I was just excited that their par 64 lamps were not thousands of dollars like some of the OEMs can be. -Matt Quote
Trailboss Posted June 20, 2018 Report Posted June 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, MB65E said: I have some emails from them. I can get pricing on the 46&36 lamps. They were great to talk with. They obviously were not harbor freight/ TSC cheap, but they state it will last 3-4 times longer and is better made than the current aviation products. Their price was on par with other MFG. Maybe they can be a supplier for spruce or organize their web site to take orders. I was just excited that their par 64 lamps were not thousands of dollars like some of the OEMs can be. -Matt I would be interested as my incandescent landing light quit this week...good thing it's the longest day of the year! Quote
Igor_U Posted June 20, 2018 Report Posted June 20, 2018 Great price for PAR36 and no so for PAR46. You've guessed it: my '67F has 2 PAR46 landing lights. Quote
Steve W Posted September 17, 2018 Report Posted September 17, 2018 I just noticed that Aircraft Spruce has now mentioned LoPresti is doing a LED lights now(LOPRESTI ILLUMIVATION LAZR PAR 36 LED WITH STC FOR GA AIRCRAFT and a $1000 PAR46 as well). No specs listed just '60% Brighter', nothing useful on their website yet either. Looks like it will cover anything that currently has an STC, so Mooney will be included. Quote
MB65E Posted September 17, 2018 Report Posted September 17, 2018 IFE lighting just obtained my vote for 2 Par 36 lamps as well as 2 Par64 lamps for another project!! PMA parts, no STC. http://ifeproducts.com/ Neat stuff!! -Matt Quote
pwnel Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 7:13 PM, Steve W said: I just noticed that Aircraft Spruce has now mentioned LoPresti is doing a LED lights now(LOPRESTI ILLUMIVATION LAZR PAR 36 LED WITH STC FOR GA AIRCRAFT and a $1000 PAR46 as well). No specs listed just '60% Brighter', nothing useful on their website yet either. Looks like it will cover anything that currently has an STC, so Mooney will be included. Sadly Lopresti never did an STC for "K" models - seems everyone else is covered though. Applies to their Boom Beam, and probably will carry forward to their LEDs? Quote
Steve W Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, pwnel said: Sadly Lopresti never did an STC for "K" models - seems everyone else is covered though. Applies to their Boom Beam, and probably will carry forward to their LEDs? So, the horrible website does indicate they'll cover K,L,M,R,S... but as there's no actual specifications, who knows: https://www.illumi-vation.com/shop Also, they have the J listed as a PAR 46 nose light, so obviously they don't want some of our business... I'd likely not buy them anyway, but more competition is always better. Quote
carusoam Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 Contact Lopresti directly with questions... Roy (RIP) Lopresti is the father of the aerodynamic mods of modern Mooneys. While working at Mooney, The J and K were big projects for him... later, he started his own company. Cowling and lights seem to be important to that effort... The kids seem to still be running the business. As for pricing... that seems to follow after making the best and highest quality parts... resulting in being only affordable by some... the nice Mooney cowl is priced in the range of a small car... PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Best regards, -a- Quote
pwnel Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, carusoam said: Contact Lopresti directly with questions... Roy (RIP) Lopresti is the father of the aerodynamic mods of modern Mooneys. While working at Mooney, The J and K were big projects for him... later, he started his own company. Cowling and lights seem to be important to that effort... The kids seem to still be running the business. As for pricing... that seems to follow after making the best and highest quality parts... resulting in being only affordable by some... the nice Mooney cowl is priced in the range of a small car... PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Best regards, -a- I did. That was the response. They never got around to STC the "K". David did offer a great discount on the Boom Beam and help with a 337 if I wanted to go ahead with that process. Edited October 18, 2018 by pwnel 1 Quote
jaylw314 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Steve W said: So, the horrible website does indicate they'll cover K,L,M,R,S... but as there's no actual specifications, who knows: https://www.illumi-vation.com/shop Also, they have the J listed as a PAR 46 nose light, so obviously they don't want some of our business... I'd likely not buy them anyway, but more competition is always better. ?? The J does use a PAR 46 nose light? I'm pretty sure I didn't just have a psychotic episode when I changed my landing light... Quote
Steve W Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jaylw314 said: ?? The J does use a PAR 46 nose light? I'm pretty sure I didn't just have a psychotic episode when I changed my landing light... That's why I said some of us. Mine has 4 wing mounted PAR 36.. and I'm also pretty sure I wasn't hallucinating when I changed 2 of them out for LEDs, plenty of cursing though. Edited October 18, 2018 by Steve W 1 Quote
jaylw314 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, Steve W said: That's why I said some of us. Mine has 4 wing mounted PAR 36.. and I'm also pretty sure I wasn't hallucinating when I changed 2 of them out for LEDs, plenty of cursing though. Really? I never realized that Quote
Steve W Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, jaylw314 said: Really? I never realized that According to the parts manual the change was at 24-3154(first new-style) which looks to put the change in 1990. 1 Quote
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