Radio station/operators license?

[FloridaMan]

I guess if I'm going to be flying out of the country that I need to update my airplane's radio station and get my own operator's license. How does one go about this? The FCC site seems like it has pages of information that has to be sorted through. 

[jetdriven]

You need a restricted radiotelephone operators permit. http://wireless.fcc.gov/commoperators/index.htm?job=rr

In the 15 years since I got one, I've never been asked to produce it. I Wouldn't worry about it for Mexico or the Bahamas.

[FloridaMan]

Doesn't the airplane need its own "radio station" certificate as well?

[FloridaMan]

Ok; this made it easy: http://www.nestflighttraining.com/#!how-to-obtian-fcc-license/c1b7y

[DrBill]

For aircraft station license go here:

http://transition.fcc.gov/Forms/Form605/605.html

 

Bill

[Bravoman]

I just got the two licenses myself because we have a trip planned to Bahamas. If you call the fcc help line they will email you instructions on what you need to do. That was helpful to me.

[kmyfm20s]

In all my trips to Mexico and Canada I have never been asked for one. Now that I jinx myself I better get one.

[FloridaMan]

It's 65$ for the radiotelephone (RR) and 165 for the "AC" one; does that sound right? 

[DrBill]

It's 65$ for the radiotelephone (RR) and 165 for the "AC" one; does that sound right? 

Right, unless the A/C is already registered to previous owner then it's just a 65 modification fee.

BILL

[kortopates]

A lot of money for a couple pieces of paper that no one will ever ask to see.

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[aaronk25]

Agreed Canada and 4 mexico stops early last year.......no one ask.

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[Awqward]

I was asked about them by the DPE when I did my instrument Checkride last year (in France)...it does catch people out sometimes over here in Europe... Even if you just want to rent an (N-reg) airplane outside the U.S. you should get the restricted operators license...

[cnoe]

It's 65$ for the radiotelephone (RR) and 165 for the "AC" one; does that sound right? 

 

The $65 RR license is good for life while the $165 AC license is only good for 10 years.

 

Figures.

 

Cnoe

[cliffy]

I don't understand. I REALLY don't understand the issues with following the regs in aviation.

If it says you need a station license and a radiotelephone license why not just get it and be done with it?

Why have the worry of "maybe they'll ask for it then what"? 

AOPA has all the requirements for out of country travel posted on their website. 

Why not just follow what is said there? 

[cujet]

I renewed my "fleet" radio station license. Yikes, that was expensive for 5 aircraft... I don't recall it being expensive last time. 

[chrisk]

I don't understand. I REALLY don't understand the issues with following the regs in aviation.

If it says you need a station license and a radiotelephone license why not just get it and be done with it?

Why have the worry of "maybe they'll ask for it then what"? 

AOPA has all the requirements for out of country travel posted on their website. 

Why not just follow what is said there?

You don't see a problem with needing to spend $230 for zero value? The US doesn't require you to have this. Its only when you travel to another country that they want you to have a US radio license.

[cliffy]

Well  When in Rome!

If you go to another country you gotta follow their rules- what ever they are. 

I believe it's actually an ICAO rule that most countries abide by. 

It also says you must have on your license a phrase saying you are proficient in the English language. 

Many holders of even PP licenses don't have that on their certificate. 

If going to Mexico they require your a/c insurance to be in a copy in Spanish and if it's a corp owned airplane an 

LOA from the corp authorizing you to fly it there even if you are the corp. Lots of little traps and YES I have 

been asked for them in Mexico but many say "what the hell, never been asked".