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Here is a picture of my 20J sitting in the hangar at the MSC in Lapeer, MI when I arrived. Would also like to add that Ron and Brent at the MSC offer top notch service.

I have been a member of Mooneyspace for a while now and it has been a great tool to obtain information in my quest for a Mooney. On Saturday, I picked up a new (to me) 1977 M20J and had the absolute pleasure of piloting this craft from Michigan to Alabama on my maiden voyage. I'm all in. What type of initiation rituals do I need to go through?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Aviation_Day Evidently August 19th is national aviation day! Happy birthday Orville Wright! Go fly! -Seth

Planning a short flight after work today to celebrate that! Yves

Generally ever single rod end bearing should get Tri-Flow. There are some in the tail, at the gear doors, ailerons, behind the panel (control system), etc. The yoke shafts should also get some Tri-Flow.

One piece of advice. Don't be cheap and buy an iPad with minimal memory and no cellular. Buy the max memory and cellular. With cellular you get internal GPS. Cellular data adds immensely to the utility of the device. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It is safe to say both options are not really good and odds are you probably die in both instances. That being said my thoughts are with yours which is the chances I figure of hitting a giant forested canopy and surviving seems a lot worse than hitting the water.

If the water is 40 degrees, expect approx 5 minutes... Not 15. A short swim would be very difficult unless you train for that sort of thing... And are dressed appropriately. The biggest consideration is surviving the impact/ crash. If you're knocked unconscious in the water landing you'll die. But your chances of staying conscious through the water landing are probably better than surviving the treetop collision and subsequent fall. I aim to ditch vs tree top when I'm over similar terrain. Then camp out by the lake (or river), pop the sat beacon I carry and see what's yummy in my survival kit after building a small fire....

There's apparently a big PUSH now for the ADM which incorporated all these fancy little acronyms that we have to learn, memorize and apply to a given situation. These range from "SAFETY" to cover the pre-flight orientation, Seat-belts, Air Vents, Fire Extinguisher, ELT, Traffic, Your Questions, and then goes on to the 3P's Perceive,(broken down with subcategory PAVE -Pilot, Aircraft, enVironment, External Factors) Process (broken down to CARE, Consequences, Alternatives, Reality, External Pressures) Perform to form a situational tool model which will determine if you should take a flight today based upon using each of these tools incorporated into any circumstances that might exist. Followed by the IMSAFE, Illness, Medication, Stress, Alcohol, Fatigue, Emotion/Eating.. From what I hear they can ask any and all of this and have you apply each and every one of them in a systematic step by step evaluation of ...{EXAMPLE} So your friend wants you to fly him, his 98 lb g'friend to the Adult Video Awards in Vegas where she has her best friend, she is showing you some real nice photos of right now, is waiting to meet you in person. The plane is a 152, the distance is 375 miles over mountainous terrain, the ceiling at takeoff is 3,000' scattered class G and the weather at LAS is projected to be 1,800' mist. It's 5pm on a Friday What do you do? Use PAVE, 3P, DECIDE and CARE to explain the situation. First.. IMSAFE.. Your not sick, you haven't taken any medications but your head hurts after a day at work. Your not stressed you are tired and you haven't eaten yet as your leaving work now. 3P.... Perceive, the ceiling and weight limitations of the 152, PAVE. Pilot is good to go. The Plane is going to take forever but it's slow and going to be heavy. Possibly needs a fuel stop. enVirnment, very tall mountains from NorCal to Vegas, going to have to find a route around most of these someway, External Pressure, meeting a nice Stripper/***** in Vegas is real pressure! Process, CARE Consequences of taking this flight, fuel starvation, exhaustion, CFIT, Night Currency, Alternatives, SouthWest Airlines, Reality it's not that smart to do this mission in this plane, External Pressure, your friend wants to impress his new G'friend as she's promising to do a lot fun things tonight Perform, Execute a plan, fuel, plan, eat (QUICKLY) and fly or DECIDE Detect the problem. I'm going to arrive so late that this hot chick is going to be drunk and already hooked up with someone else. The plane is to small, to slow, the weather is marginal at arrival, the plane is not IFR, I'm not IFR Estimate: To little speed, to little fuel, to little time Choose. Different plane, have I been check'd out in this Cessna 182 or the Cardinal? Leave at a different time? Identify, The plane is not up to the task and the weather would require a MVFR landing and I'm not rated for that Do Something: Buy tickets on SouthWest Evaluate: Arrive on time to meet Tiffany Lee before she's to drunk or taken This is what only one part of the Oral has come down to it appears...

Given the choice while flying along a lake with tree lined shores I'd take the water and land as close to shore as possible gear up and full flaps. Even better some marsh grass with gear up IMHO that way you end up in about 6" of water. Of course there are some that will argue to put as much out into the wind as possible to slow you down

You might want to check the useful load on this one. It might be on the low side. The empty weight of the M20J increased through the early 80s. Eventually Mooney increased the maximum gross weight and there's an STC for a gross weight increase on some older airframes but I don't think this one is eligible.

uh, OK then.

Back on topic: I'M A MOONEY OWNER!

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Congrats for the initiation you need to shave your head and get "Mooney Nut" and the Mooney logo tattooed on your left arm and run around the hangar screaming in ecstasy.

My nose gear has 11 grease fittings; each main has 8 or 9, I forget. I find and clean all of them on one leg, then grease them all. Then I spray Tri-flow on every other moving part in the wheel well, and move to the next one. Aeroshell 22. For the prop, there should be a sticker with which grease is in there. Use only that. Mine is either 5 or 6, I forget. rRmove the caps and add grease until it comes out the other one. Recap and move to the next blade. I have 3 blades. Flaps, ailerons, rudder and elevators--whenever you feel like it. Use the recommended grease. For your fuel cap lids, give a squirt of Tri-Flow or LPS on the center and let it work its way down. After 15-20 minutes, open the tank, the difference is amazing. I'm not into writing detailed step-by-step procedures starting with "load the grease gun." I do so at work when I have to, but I prefer to assume some level of knowledge. If you don't know how, have your A&P show you how. It's a great learning process, and you will develop a better working relationship that will only help you in thel ong run. Good luck. Oh, have lots of rags handy, and wash your hands with soap and warm water when you're done.

Welcome to Mooney ownership! Maybe we need to have an Alabama get together?

What a great trip, Dallas! Just saw it on the board tonight for the first time and read every post! A buddy and I just took the first major cross country in my Mooney last month, flying from KDVT (in Phoenix) up to OSH. My parents actually live in Wheaton, IL so we landed at KDPA as well. Great service there, and the overnight ramp fee was only seven bucks, which I thought was a great deal for Chicago! Following OSH I flew the plane up to Willmar, MN to drop off at Weep-No-More to have the tanks resealed. (Will plan to do a before and after post here on MS after the job is done). Will be picking up the bird at the end of this month from Weep-No-More, and doing some business in the Midwest. Then out to Virginia briefly, before making the cross country trip back to Phoenix. I'm anxious to continue reading about your trip and see the pictures. Have fun, and stay safe!

Clear and a hundred miles at Oceano Airport this morning. We already have about 15 airplanes including two with their tails on the right way. I expect another couple Mooneys. Fly-In movie night is tonight. Activities start at 4 ish. All welcome. Oceano California. High today is 79 degrees. Camping on field. Free admission to movie night. Wing walking demo. Caddy Shack is our main feature. www.OceanoAirport.com for webcams.

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In a state like California if you purchase a plane through a dealer and use your old one as a trade in you only have to pay the difference in sales tax. Depending on the values involved it could be a good deal.

I drive a two seater Corvette to go places fast, in style, and without passengers. Short body Mooney fits me nicely.

Response for Wakeup.... Convenience usually costs you additionally. Since it is a major convenience to unload one plane while picking up the next, it may be worth it to you. Contact All American Aircraft to see how they would handle that with your plane. Assuming they have something that you want. I separated the sale and purchase. It took almost a year. Not very convenient. Best regards, -a-

Guys unfortunately I haven't joined the club yet, I just purchased the new IPad Air it comes with a much faster processor and a better retina screen, I use my IPad mini as a backup to the new air. All this is a matter of personal choice, my main reason for utilizing the bigger one first and the mini as my backup is its just easier for my old eyes to see. I don't think there's a loser in either Dan

He likes to play good poster, bad poster on MooneySpace:) Looks like a fun trip Dalles, fly safe!

It also makes sense if you are doing a cost comparison relative to renting an aircraft. If you fly enough your cost per hour could be better than a rental.

You also have to factor in that the standard rule changes some above 10,000'. That's why when you do fly in the mountains the altimeter settings are usually quite a bit higher than you would expect compared to nearby flat lands. The gauge may indeed by off some, but it's better to do the test with your engine resting at sea level (which is where that poster lives) and see how the MP compares to the atmospheric pressure to get a sense of it.

I use Phillips 66 X/C 20W-50 Multi-Viscosity oil as it was recommended to me by Bruce Jaeger who used to have an MSC for a long time and did an amazing job with my interiror redo. After doing some reading arround, I have found that most would say that Single viscosity is fine if you are not going very high, but if you are going up to flight levels, general opinion or somewhat conscensus is that multi-viscosity behaves better.

I may be wrong, but I got a mini 2 instead of a mini 3 when it was time to upgrade last fall when my two year old iPad broke because the only difference between the mini 2 and mini 3 was the fingerprint scanner for unlocking. I don't need that and it saved me the price difference. Make sure you get one they is ATT/Verizon/data plan ready. They have the GPS chip that shows location even without a stratus or external GPS setup. Also, get one with a large enough capacity for ForeFlight or whatever programs you will use. Bigger is better as over time programs will keep getting bigger. 64 is the minimum in my mind right now - 128 is probably better, if not bigger (I don't know the largest capacity). Unless they upgraded the processor, you are getting the same specs of the 3 in the 2 without the fingerprint unlocking mechanism. -Seth

I arrived for the BBQ at 3pm. The BBQ was still hot, but I was the only 1 there. Good BBQ, and super nice staff. Looking forward to the next one. The mgt said they will make it a regular event.

I'm going on 3 years with the same cards for my 650. One thing I am careful about is making sure they are completely ejected before I remove them. Any chance you have an anti-virus interference? Is the same anti-virus stuff running on the different computers? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Yes, I do bounced landing practice by deliberately bouncing the plane and having the student recover. I do not do it from the slow side, as that is not easily controllable; only from the fast side where most of the bounced landing problems occur. The recovery procedures are well pre-briefed.

When you guys get to be my age you will take precautions as to mislabeled bottle. No one drinks anything out of a Prestone jug. Just sayin'

You must have an incredibly small bladder. Unless I am using a 32 oz. Gatorade bottle, there is a high possibility of a yellow flood ensuing. Besides, aren't the openings on those water bottles a little small for us man sized, testosterone driven Mooney owners?

Yeah don't change the story. The whole house of cards logical argument for buying a plane could come crashing down.

Have you considered dealing with All American (Jimmy Garrison), Premier (Richard Simile), or another reputable dealer? I bought my Mooneys in private sales but several here report dealing with these guys is the way to go. Some have traded with All American multiple times. As admitted novices, I suppose a reputable broker/dealer should be able to earn their share of the transaction.

I haven't prepped anyone for the PPL oral, but suffice it to say ADM is a hot button right now with the FAA, know your acronyms IMSAFE, PAVE, DECIDE etc.... Get the King Video's for an oral checkride and be prepared for the best snooze you have had in a long time. Review the entire PTS well. Be able to interpret METARS, Prog charts, depc. charts, etc. Know what are vacuum instruments, what are pitot static instruments, what happens when one becomes inop, Be able to do a w&B, explain your flight plan with an emphasis on safety for your route. These and about 150,000 other possible topics are for review. Good luck, you only have to get 70% of the answers right, and like what was said, don't be afraid to haul in your books and look up the answer.

Rick, if you can wait for the KI 300, it's a no brainer! It is exactly what's been missing. The KI300 does not require a costly backup AI nor does it require those other external boxes to worry about. It provides its own autopilot outputs. It carries DO-178B criticality level B. (Aspen is only level C.) This is huge! It will potentially enable removal of the vacuum system. Going to an Aspen would be regressing.

I have a mini on a yoke ram mount. I'm using foreflight, and I'd say it's perfect.