Des Moines

[toto]

Just saw this on Google News..

https://www.kcci.com/article/des-moines-international-airport-runway-closed-after-emergency-landing/44481406
 

I don’t know any details beyond what’s in the article. 

[toto]

Also from AP

https://apnews.com/article/des-moines-iowa-emergency-landing-airport-7cbf936d29b31235048e2299df669e58

Sounds like the pilot was having a gear problem and performed a planned gear-up after discussing with ATC. Curious what happened there. 

[jetdriven]

Dukes actuators have no back spring to fail. However the crank engage lever can be a little finicky to get the crank cable to engage.  It will, you sometimes just have to mess with it a little to get it to engage 

[toto]

Looks like there’s a video.

 

 

[RoundTwo]

39 minutes ago, toto said:

Looks like there’s a video.

 

 

Flawless execution!

[ArtVandelay]

Flawless execution!

Except by the commentator.

[EricJ]

2 hours ago, Evan said:

What year did the J’s change actuators? 

1978.    This aircraft is a 77, so no NBS.   Looks like it jammed during deployment somehow.   Could be the cable end broke on the crank or something.

[Ibra]

3 hours ago, toto said:

Looks like there’s a video.

Beautiful…I am not sure if it’s the right word for such misshape, the pilot made one of the smoothest touchdowns !

[1980Mooney]

N201PL, a 1977 M20J Serial No 24-0284.  Dukes Gear until Serial number 24-0377.

In the video the landing gear are partially down.  That probably creates the most damage in a gear up landing.  In addition to prop, engine, belly gear doors, step, the landing gear connecting rods, turnbuckles, gear actuator and steering horn are overstressed and bent usually - they are all hard linked together - something has to give.  A belly landing with gear fully up is much less damaging.

No activity on FlightAware since 2021.  Owner is 65 years old per internet.

Probably headed to the scrap heap.  

[N201MKTurbo]

For those that followed the saga of my emergency extension cable, that is exactly the state my gear was in when my cable jammed. Except I was on jacks, not in the air. But for about 75 hours, that would have been my fate if I had to use the emergency extension.

[toto]

20 minutes ago, 1980Mooney said:

No activity on FlightAware since 2021.

Maybe no ADS-B out?

[N201MKTurbo]

Just now, toto said:

Maybe no ADS-B out?

Even if he didn't have ADS-B out, if he got any kind of flight following where he was IDed, it would still show up.

[kortopates]

Looks like the pilot saved the flaps, but i agree that the valuation is likely way to low to not total.


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[toto]

56 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said:

Even if he didn't have ADS-B out, if he got any kind of flight following where he was IDed, it would still show up.

Yeah - grasping at straws here

 

[N201MKTurbo]

I think @1980Mooney nailed it.

Nice landing for someone who hasn't flown much. But we don't know that. The pilot could fly a lot, all we know is the Mooney hasn't flown much.

I would like to look at the maintenance history. Both landing gear systems failed. Considering that it hasn't flown much, did it just come out of annual?

[jetdriven]

We don't know both failed.  For all we know, the breaker tripped halfway down and the finicky lever wasn't engaged on the cable.  Nobody ever practices this or understand how the system operates. 

[Fly Boomer]

On 7/9/2023 at 12:54 PM, N201MKTurbo said:

Even if he didn't have ADS-B out, if he got any kind of flight following where he was IDed, it would still show up.

I was trying to get a PAPR yesterday with no success.  I told the FAA guy it has to be in the database since you can see it on FlightAware.  FAA guy says "Nope - even if it wasn't broadcasting, you may be able to see it on FlightAware."

[N201MKTurbo]

20 minutes ago, Fly Boomer said:

I was trying to get a PAPR yesterday with no success.  I told the FAA guy it has to be in the database since you can see it on FlightAware.  FAA guy says "Nope - even if it wasn't broadcasting, you may be able to see it on FlightAware."

If you are taking off from a towered airport with a brite display, they may be able to ID you, even if you don't get flight following. Are there any ATC on Mooneyspace?

[hubcap]

5 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said:

If you are taking off from a towered airport with a brite display, they may be able to ID you, even if you don't get flight following. Are there any ATC on Mooneyspace?

I know there is at least 1 ATC guy that is on MooneySpace