Baggage door strut

[Shiny moose]

Where’s the dude that uses a large spring to replace the slider on the door. Some older Lake Aircraft used a large spring to hold their cabin  doors open. Works great, stable, hold door and pull on spring to close 

[Immelman]

2 hours ago, Shiny moose said:

Where’s the dude that uses a large spring to replace the slider on the door. Some older Lake Aircraft used a large spring to hold their cabin  doors open. Works great, stable, hold door and pull on spring to close 

 

I was thinking about that solution. I believe it is in this thread, from Andy95W. The baggage door holder has long been on my todo list for improvements.

 

[kortopates]

Definitely don’t want to have to buy a new one if that’s what you have.. Here’s their link for that (it’s not available). https://lasar.com/doors/baggage-door-hold-open-arm-350154-901

I called them earlier and they don’t have any available that match what I have.


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Sorry, apparently my post added confusion. The point of my post was to point out LASAR repairs the newer baggage door sliders. I don't think they sell too many brand new $800 ones since they repair them for much less. If they don't already have a repaired one ready to send out, one only needs to send in the their broken one for repair.
But I get the impression you may have the older style, so this may only be of interest to the those with mid and long body Mooney's.


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[Huitt3106]

55 minutes ago, kortopates said:

Sorry, apparently my post added confusion. The point of my post was to point out LASAR repairs the newer baggage door sliders. I don't think they sell too many brand new $800 ones since they repair them for much less. If they don't already have a repaired one ready to send out, one only needs to send in the their broken one for repair.
But I get the impression you may have the older style, so this may only be of interest to the those with mid and long body Mooney's.


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I do have the older style.  I do like the operation of the newer style though.  I understand what you're saying and appreciate the you trying to help either way!

[BigD]

I have a RAT (air driven alternator) that uses such struts to push open a door to get the turbine into the wind (mounter on the avionics bay door).  The company makes 
them in many sizes.  I am sure one can be used for this purpose.  I'll look for the manufacturer's name.
John Breda

A RAT for the Mooney? Whoah Daddy! Let’s see it!


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[Immelman]

Has anyone adapted the newer style sliding mechanism to a vintage mooney that used the simple folding arm? I am wondering if a salvage slider could be had for a reasonable price and what hardware compatibility issues there are.

[RogueOne]

The “old style”, while simple, simply works.

[RLCarter]

1 hour ago, BigD said:

A RAT for the Mooney? Whoah Daddy! Let’s see it!

 

HERE 

[David Lloyd]

Just got a response from Dan at LASAR about my cabin door roller slider.  He said the haven't much success with repairs, the usually break again in a short time.  New is $542.73.

[RLCarter]

14 minutes ago, David Lloyd said:

Just got a response from Dan at LASAR about my cabin door roller slider.  He said the haven't much success with repairs, the usually break again in a short time.  New is $542.73.

that price is just stupid....

[David Lloyd]

Uh, yeah. I'll bang my head on the door for a good while before doing that.  Sooner or later it will come off and be examined for repair.  Might be 6 months but I will post pictures.

[Herlihy Brother]

A passenger just (well its been a year now i'm afraid) forced the door shut shearing my "old style" baggage arm.  $134 new from lasar looks pretty good and makes it tempting to just buy rather then repair, especially compared to $175 from the salvage yard above. 

[RogueOne]

On 9/25/2019 at 2:56 PM, David Lloyd said:

Just got a response from Dan at LASAR about my cabin door roller slider.  He said the haven't much success with repairs, the usually break again in a short time.  New is $542.73.

Good God.

[SheryLoewen]

I have some of each kind available or can rebuild the sliders.

Paul---Loewens Mooney Salvage 

[Guest]

On 9/24/2019 at 6:33 PM, BigD said:

 

A RAT for the Mooney? Whoah Daddy! Let’s see it!


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They’re produce by Basic Aircraft Products.  I take care of a few airplanes with them.

http://www.basicaircraft.com/

Clarence

[RH Galyen]

On 9/23/2019 at 7:11 PM, RLCarter said:

Not sure on the gauge but it was the same as the original, material was overkill (4130  Chromoly), I turned the rivet out of mild steel. I've made 2 others for MS members but I don't have enough 4130 left to make another one, plus my lathe is tied up for the next 4 or 5 weeks or I'd make you one and send it to you.... Sorry

Do you have measurements? I don't have any thing to copy.

[RLCarter]

57 minutes ago, RH Galyen said:

Do you have measurements? I don't have any thing to copy.

I can get them for you, I'll be out at the hangar this afternoon and post them here

[RLCarter]

@RH Galyen here ya go...if you have any questions you can send me a PM

M20 Baggage Door Hold Open.pdf

Edited November 21, 2019 by RLCarter

[Prior owner]

I’m Reviving this thread, as I spied an interesting solution on an older model....  a 180 degree locking support hinge. Took me a while to find the source- it can be purchased at Hinge Outlet. Sold in a set of two for under $8.00

The beauty of this thing is that it isn’t an over center device- it locks at 180 degrees and stays locked until you release it, and it’s very stout. It is too long out of the box, so It has to be trimmed to length, then two slight bends made on one arm in a vice, then fold in half and match drill the new mounting holes. It’ll never collapse on you.

You can buy it here:

Hinge support

 

Edited May 14, 2021 by PilotCoyote

[takair]

30 minutes ago, PilotCoyote said:

I’m Reviving this thread, as I spied an interesting solution on an older model....  a 180 degree locking support hinge. Took me a while to find the source- it can be purchased at Hinge Outlet. Sold in a set of two for under $8.00

The beauty of this thing is that it isn’t an over center device- it locks at 180 degrees and stays locked until you release it, and it’s very stout. It is too long out of the box, so It has to be trimmed to length, then two slight bends made on one arm in a vice, and then new holes match drilled. It’ll never collapse on you.

You can buy it here:

Nice find.  Looks like a great replacement.  

[Prior owner]

17 minutes ago, takair said:

Nice find.  Looks like a great replacement.  

I was really impressed with it- you could push and pull the door all you wanted, but due it’s 180 design none of those forces are transmitted towards unlocking it.

[Andy95W]

Holy crap, @PilotCoyote for the win and CB of the month!  Thanks for finding this and posting.  You just saved me a bunch of hours trying to fabricate something that would be 1/2 as good and cost more.  $8!  Wow!

[Immelman]

@PilotCoyote That looks awesome!

How does this new hinge sit/fit between the baggage door and the frame? Any issues with the door being nudged slightly when closed with this hinge?

Also looking at the photos, did you bend the hinge attached to the fuselage or did it come like that?

Edited May 14, 2021 by Immelman

[RobertGary1]

Just squeeze the slide where it contacts the roller. That is usually enough to stiffen the lock on the F model style.

[jamesm]

I have notice that some models have the baggage door support is on leading edge of the baggage door whereas  mine is on the trailing edge of the baggage door.