Tool idea?

[320KPH]

_{If you have some valve grinding paste handy, it can help to put a dab on the Allen Key. This increases the friction and lessens the chances of rounding out an old cheesy capscrew...}

[DonMuncy]

47 minutes ago, Yetti said:

If you are getting the hammer out....  do it right

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/131739808570?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

These are pretty handy.  Had to use it on several other fasteners on the plane

 

 

Other vendors have them much cheaper. Harbor Freight for instance. They are really great tools when you need them. They put the twist and impact at exactly the same time.

[Yetti]

Yep I have one from Sears and a Snap on.   Having the socket allen wrench is key.   I always seem to struggle for a moment before I remember to get the impact driver out.

Like others have said the HF tools are great for a single use...   Say Wheel bearing nuts that are large.

If you are working every day with your tools Snap on are the way to go.  I have some stripped out Snap on ratchet drives and some HF stripped out ratchets.

 

[N201MKTurbo]

9 hours ago, Ah-1 Cobra Pilot said:

Not even close...  You ever smell a durian?  How about the exhaust from a maladjusted 2-stroke coming from a broken urinal?

When I was in Singapore they kept trying to get me to eat that stuff. I couldn't get past the gag reflex!

[DonMuncy]

49 minutes ago, Yetti said:

Yep I have one from Sears and a Snap on.   Having the socket allen wrench is key.   I always seem to struggle for a moment before I remember to get the impact driver out.

Like others have said the HF tools are great for a single use...   Say Wheel bearing nuts that are large.

If you are working every day with your tools Snap on are the way to go.  I have some stripped out Snap on ratchet drives and some HF stripped out ratchets.

 

One difference is, if you have a stripped out Snap-on, you catch the Snap-on truck and he will repair it free.

[Bob_Belville]

5 minutes ago, DonMuncy said:

One difference is, if you have a stripped out Snap-on, you catch the Snap-on truck and he will repair it free.

The Harbor Freight (Chicago) tools have a lifetime guaranty.

[Hank]

11 minutes ago, Bob_Belville said:

The Harbor Freight (Chicago) tools have a lifetime guaranty.

But it's much more fun to run after the Snap On truck! I used to work with a guy whose toolbox was named The Train. Big Snap On rollaround with an add-on on both ends, about 5' tall. The truck would visit our plant just to talk to Larry and sell him another tool . . .

Edited October 15, 2016 by Hank

[cnoe]

Triple square are used a lot on German cars, it's also known as an XZN bit. In the OP's case I thInk it's a standard size Allen plug, though.  I haven't seen any hardware on a Lycoming that was invented after 1939. 

Yep, it's a simple allen/hex plug. Bang it with a hammer, heat it with a torch. Spray some PB Blaster on it. Use a heat gun. Do a jig. Say a prayer. Chant. Cross your fingers.

When all hope is lost PM me and I'll send you the tool. You pay shipping.


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[DonMuncy]

Just now, Hank said:

But it's much more fun to run after the Snap On truck! I used to work with a guy whose toolbox was named The Train. Big Snap On rollaround with an add-on on both ends, about 5' tall. The truck would visit our plant just to talk to Larry and sell him another tool . . .

Not to mention how nice Snap-on tools feel. If money was no object, I would buy nothing but Snap-on. I actually have a lot of respect for all of them. I have a bunch of Craftsman tools from back when I used them a lot. I have a few Snap-on tools that I enjoy every time I pick them up. And I also have several Harbor Freight tools. When I got them, it was with the idea that they were Chinese junk, but would do for the few times I would likely use them. I have been (surprisingly) generally pleased with them. I haven't had many problems with them, and when I did, the HF store was quick to replace them. They don't have the apparent quality of Snap-on, but for the money, they are hard to beat.

[Yetti]

Let's just say there were no tears shed when the 1" HF box end went to the abrasive cut off saw (also from HF) to make a oil filter wrench that fit the mooney.  Not sure I could have done that to a Snap on box end.

[RLCarter]

Not sure I would use an impact of any kinda to remove a 1/8" pipe plug. Like others have said above "Good Fit" and "Fully Inserted" and it will come right out with no issues

Edited October 15, 2016 by RLCarter

[Hank]

3 minutes ago, Yetti said:

Let's just say there were no tears shed when the 1" HF box end went to the abrasive cut off saw (also from HF) to make a oil filter wrench that fit the mooney.  Not sure I could have done that to a Snap on box end.

Why cut the wrench off? I just unroll my cheap set and use the 1" as it is, a foot or more long. It's only needed for a half revolution or so whether breaking loose the old one or snugging down the new one. After that, the filter spins freely with my fingers. 

[Bob_Belville]

10 hours ago, Hank said:

Why cut the wrench off? I just unroll my cheap set and use the 1" as it is, a foot or more long. It's only needed for a half revolution or so whether breaking loose the old one or snugging down the new one. After that, the filter spins freely with my fingers. 

Even though I lube the seal and torque to spec, I usually have to resort to this:

https://www.zoro.com/westward-oil-filter-wrench-38-in-square-drive-1ekj8/i/G3087463/

Steady pressure works like a charm.

 

[Mooneymite]

14 hours ago, Yetti said:

 

These are pretty handy.  Had to use it on several other fasteners on the plane

 

This cheapie has saved my bacon on frozen fasteners.  I don't use it on aircraft, but general applications...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000NPPATS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476539756&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=impact+driver

I've also used a rivet gun against a wrench to "vibrate" frozen/rusted fasteners loose.

Edited October 15, 2016 by Mooneymite

[DaV8or]

3 hours ago, Bob_Belville said:

Even though I lube the seal and torque to spec, I usually have to resort to this:

https://www.zoro.com/westward-oil-filter-wrench-38-in-square-drive-1ekj8/i/G3087463/

Steady pressure works like a charm.

 

I'm able to torque that with a Craftsman 3/8" torque wrench and a Craftsman 1" socket. It just fits, but I suppose their are minor differences between planes and maybe my motor mounts aren't so good. However you could also use this-

They make them in the 1" size. You have to do a calculation to get the correct torque and the formula is on the net, or they also have phone app that will do it for you.

[bonal]

So trip to help install the JPI slim line temp gauge. Remove cowling and top of the dog house for good access to the plug applied some mouse milk to help loosen the plug. New Allen wrench with a few raps of the mallet no good. Return from Sears with brand new allen on a 3/8 socket drive apply heat gun and still no good. Out comes the torch for some proper heat applied strong steady pressure on the 1/2 inch drive wrench with a 3/8th reduction and felt the plug slowly begin to turn. Success. Installed new temp gauge which worked when switched on but poor weather and low ceiling prevented flight test.

[DonMuncy]

I like success stories.

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, bonal said:

So trip to help install the JPI slim line temp gauge. Remove cowling and top of the dog house for good access to the plug applied some mouse milk to help loosen the plug. New Allen wrench with a few raps of the mallet no good. Return from Sears with brand new allen on a 3/8 socket drive apply heat gun and still no good. Out comes the torch for some proper heat applied strong steady pressure on the 1/2 inch drive wrench with a 3/8th reduction and felt the plug slowly begin to turn. Success. Installed new temp gauge which worked when switched on but poor weather and low ceiling prevented flight test.

I remember reading somewhere that a torch would help.  Glad you got it out.

Clarence

[Bob_Belville]

4 hours ago, DaV8or said:

I'm able to torque that with a Craftsman 3/8" torque wrench and a Craftsman 1" socket. It just fits, but I suppose their are minor differences between planes and maybe my motor mounts aren't so good. However you could also use this-

They make them in the 1" size. You have to do a calculation to get the correct torque and the formula is on the net, or they also have phone app that will do it for you.

That's fine and what I use for installation. (Be sure to allow for the offset when calculating torque. I finish with the mechanism @ 90 deg to make it easier.)

The band wrench is for removal. 

[Marauder]

Oops Harbor Frieght stuff!








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[DaV8or]

2 hours ago, Marauder said:

Oops Harbor Frieght stuff!








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Yes, Harbor Freight does a reasonable job of making their stuff look like real tools. 

[Joe Larussa]

Success! Two different easy outs and a propane torch and plug is out! Geeze!