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scottfromiowa Grand Master

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This plane is a steal at this price...nicest F I have ever seen.  That is a steal at that price.  What is wrong with this plane?  The panel, interior and LoPresti cowl alone plus a powerflow exhaust, one piece belly, 201 windshield...WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did I say WOW?!

conom06d Collaborator

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Yeah that is a very VERY nice F. I would guess there may have been a prop strike considering the new front end but since it was all fixed I wouldnt worry too much so long as it is signed off airworthy

ATB Apprentice

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Yep, the only 2 things that are missing from "my perfect Mooney" are an HSI/aspen and a 330 transponder.


The last flight aware track shows it not making its destination....wonder if it was a prop strike in a field :)


 


If I had the $$ right now (sigh) I would certianly be looking into this.  Best one I have seen in my year of window shopping. Good luck to you Mooney shoppers with money in hand

F18Lumpy Contributor

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Yeah, I looked at that one too.  Was pretty excited about it until my buddy (who has an F) said, "Hmm...new motor, new prop, new cowl without stripes but the paint is from 85, reconstructed nose wheel, and a one piece belly that hasn't been installed, sounds like either a nosewheel collapse or possibly a gear up landing."


Obviously disappointing, because the panel is the best I've seen in close to a year of looking.


Jeff

KLRDMD Grand Master

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Quote: F18Lumpy

Yeah, I looked at that one too.  Was pretty excited about it until my buddy (who has an F) said, "Hmm...new motor, new prop, new cowl without stripes but the paint is from 85, reconstructed nose wheel, and a one piece belly that hasn't been installed, sounds like either a nosewheel collapse or possibly a gear up landing."

F18Lumpy Contributor

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Ken, it's only a problem for me.  In my opinion, there are too many airplanes out there without an accident history for me to spend time on those with a history.  Yes I understand that if repaired properly it should not be an issue, but call me a perfectionist (or maybe irrational) but I don't want to go there.


Maybe my perspective will change when I get tired of sitting on the sidelines searching for "the one."  But until then I'll keep looking.


Jeff

KLRDMD Grand Master

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Quote: F18Lumpy

Ken, it's only a problem for me.  In my opinion, there are too many airplanes out there without an accident history for me to spend time on those with a history.  Yes I understand that if repaired properly it should not be an issue, but call me a perfectionist (or maybe irrational) but I don't want to go there.

Maybe my perspective will change when I get tired of sitting on the sidelines searching for "the one."  But until then I'll keep looking.

jax88 Proficient

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IMHO, purchase an aircraft that you will have confidence in.  If that means continuing to search for the "perfect" no damage history aircraft, so be it.  The last thing you want to be doing while flying is questioning the reliability and safety of your aircraft.  For some that would mean purchasing an aircraft that has no damage history, for others it will mean finding an aircraft that has been maintained and flown with properly.  The point is, when you push the throttle in and go to ease back on that yoke, YOU need to be 100% confident in your aircraft.


For the record, I purchased a 75F that has had a prop "scrape" and a hard landing.  After examining the logs, speaking with the owner, speaking with the current mechanic, and considering the time in service since both incidents, the choice became very easy for me to make.  Before making my purchase I went through the same type of discovery for a Cardinal RG and was never able to get comfortable with the information I was given about airframe damage received during an in flight turbulence incident.

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Magnum Experienced

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My 205 had a prop strike two years before I bought her. The engine had a shock loading inspection and it got a new prop. It is a low time '87 model, so I was glad that the engine was apart and checked for corrosion etc. at the same time. Due to the damage history I got her cheaper, but I even would have paid the full price because I feel safer with an engine that was inspected after 20 years of service. Another good thing: The twelve years TBO was reset due to the inspection.


For me it is more important how an aircraft is maintained and repaired than no damage history. But as it was said before, everyone has to make his own decision.

scottfromiowa Grand Master

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I really made a LOT of bad decisions when I bought my plane.  I didn't have Mooney Space and had certain "must have" items that included: Johnson bar, 201 windshield mod, "low time" and no accidents...I found "my plane" and ended up getting...because I had NO IDEA then what was really important...a hanger queen with the "must have" items and a low time airframe with NO Accident history...I have spent several years updating the panel as well as having the eninge majored and MANY fire-wall forward items replaced, repaired or fixed...


I could care less about the gear-up/prop strike as it netted a new prop, fiberglass belly, LoPresti cowl.  The plane (if repaired properly, and a good MSC annual will tell this) is BETTER than pre-prop strike and based on the avionics updates should serve her owner well into the future.

fantom Grand Master

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 I'd like to know the source for your 90% statement, because it has no basis in fact for the hundreds of Mooney's I know about.

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scottfromiowa Grand Master

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Gee, when you locate the stats/signed documents from all owners that 100% verify that a Mooney has NEVER been on its belly I would like to see that....No actually I really wouldn't because I don't care...it is simply history like how many hours are on the airframe and set of tires and time since brakes have been done.  It seems that some feel that there is a focus/premium for "non-damage" airframes...I don't see it in how planes are priced.  Total hours, Maintenance, Condition and Avionics are the key cost differentials that I see.  Enjoy your virgin belly Gary.

fantom Grand Master

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Really?  How much more.  Can you define what "a-lot" more is in the current marketplace.  Can you show me some stats?

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