Partners dilemma. Advice on moving forward

[pinerunner]

I'm 6'4" and feel comfortable in the J.  I could fly it all day.   Is there less pilot legroom in the C?

I think its the same up front. It's the back seat that suffers.

[carusoam]

Pilot's leg room is the same from C to R...

I'm only 6' tall, so I use a set of rudder extensions...

Best regards,

-a-

[mooniac15u]

Pilot's leg room is the same from C to R...

I'm only 6' tall, so I use a set of rudder extensions...

Best regards,

-a-

I have more pilot legroom in my J than I had in my D.

[rbridges]

Maybe.  But I advise people to be cautious about buying into a partnership where the person offering the deal is currently the sole owner, even for a little while.  Not that they don't mean well, but sometimes it's difficult for a sole owner to accept truly equal ownership of new partners, especially when it comes to all the little things: fueling policy, whether the belly gets wiped down after every flight, if the sun shade gets put up, is the strobe/beacon switch left on or off, etc.  Emotionally, some folks think of it as still being "their" airplane, which they're just letting the other guy(s) use, as opposed to a genuinely shared asset.

 

Not really suggesting the OP shouldn't proceed with buying an airplane, but just some food for thought about how it's treated while finding new (or old) partners.

 

I had an opportunity to let someone buy into my plane, and I ran into that issue.  I knew I'd never feel ok with letting someone be an "equal" in the ownership.

[fantom]

Interestingly, the width under the instrument panel is broader on the pilot side than on the passenger side.

 

I bet some didn't know that.

[mooniac15u]

 

Interestingly, the width under the instrument panel is broader on the pilot side than on the passenger side.

 

I bet some didn't know that.

 

 

I would be one of those who did not know that.

[Greg_D]

Pilot's leg room is the same from C to R...

I'm only 6' tall, so I use a set of rudder extensions...

Best regards,

-a-

I don't think so.  I've owned a C, E, F, and J and currently own an Ovation.  The Ovation's seats move back further than the F or J and much further than the C or E.  The cabin in the R is also a bit wider due to the changes made in the side panels.

[carusoam]

Sorry Greg,

You are probably technically correct.

I have had both the C & R.

I didn't run out of leg room in either one.

One may be longer than the other, but I couldn't use the extra space that is available to the pilot.

People seem to be confused by the "smallness" of the cabin.

I'm stating that there is plenty of space for the pilot

My full size children are in the back. If I move all the way back. They run out of room...

Oooooo? Is that where we are not seeing eye to eye. Clearly there is more room in the cabin from C to R.

But the question was about room for the pilot's legs. You and I both flew short bodies before Rs.

I wouldn't want to tell somebody they have to fly an R because they are long legged.

If you have long legs and a small aviation budget, fly a C, because you can.

If you have long legs and an O sized aviation budget, go O, because you want to.

The real challenge is to have full sized back seaters and a small budget...

There is a Mooney for everyone, (I'm sure this is not statistically correct, but...)

-a-

[chrisk]

I don't think so.  I've owned a C, E, F, and J and currently own an Ovation.  The Ovation's seats move back further than the F or J and much further than the C or E.  The cabin in the R is also a bit wider due to the changes made in the side panels.

 

I have a K.  At a certain point, moving the seat back further, is only because it is easier to see the gauges without reading glasses (and for more speed).  I'm 5'11 there is no way I could come close to touching the rudder pedals with the seat back.  An inch or two either way would make no difference.

[Seth]

Interestingly, the width under the instrument panel is broader on the pilot side than on the passenger side.

I bet some didn't know that.

I knew that - found out when flying in a buddy's plane and then measuring because I felt the right seat was maybe a half inch closer to the right, then realized it was the foot wells

-Seth

[Seth]

Also, seats all the way back make it easier for ingress, egress. I'm 5''6" and have the seat in the first notch for TO and LND so that I can properly work the breaks. In cruise I click back to the second notch. I'm not sure how much that has to with things, but I know the further back the CG the less drag on the Mooney airframe. With the big Missile engine out front (weight) I like to help move the CG aft in cruise. Part of my pre landing checklist is to reposition in the first notch.

-Seth

[bonal]

Seems the talk got a little off target. I think we all agree that there is plenty of space inside. Getting back to the original point about partnerships. Even though it gives you the ability to own more airplane than you can afford (there is a point in there I think) you now become dependent on others to keep things on the up and up. Even though I have to bare all the cost I love the fact it's all mine.

[cunnira]

Have a nice 81 201 with 1850 tt and 225 on factory reman.