Who was Roger?

[aviatoreb]

Roger that.

[Marauder]

Must be a boring day up north! I would Roger that only if you wilco...

[Joe Zuffoletto]

He was Clarence's copilot.

[Hank]

I thought he was a rabbit.

[Skywarrior]

  On 3/13/2013 at 5:21 PM, colojo said:

He was Clarence's copilot.

 

No... Clarence got sick, too.

[Marauder]

Lets not forget Roger Ramjet! He would feel slighted if we did... At least he is IN aviation!

[aviatoreb]

  On 3/13/2013 at 4:48 PM, Marauder said:

Must be a boring day up north! I would Roger that only if you wilco...

 

:-)  Yup - boring day in the North Country - Still thawing out and Maple sugarin'.

 

Wilco is easy - he is the guy who will comply.  

 

Roger Rabbit was never in the Air Force.  So it couldn't be him.

 

Clarence had a drinking problem if you remember.

[aviatoreb]

:-)

[aviatoreb]

  On 3/13/2013 at 6:13 PM, Marauder said:

Lets not forget Roger Ramjet! He would feel slighted if we did... At least he is IN aviation!

 

I LOOOVE that movie.  Too funny.  It reminds me of the doodles I used to make when I was in elementary school....and heck the doodles I still make now that I am a university professor - every jet doodler knows the following principle: the pointer the jet, the faster it goes - and you can tell how fast its going by the size of the fire plume coming out the back.  Rich of Peak of course.

[FloridaMan]

  On 3/13/2013 at 5:43 PM, Skywarrior said:

No... Clarence got sick, too.

[fantom]

  On 3/13/2013 at 5:43 PM, Skywarrior said:

No... Clarence got sick, too.

 

Drinking, drugs, all night sex.....let's go fly

 

[Jamie]

I just want to tell you good luck.. we're all counting on you.

[fantom]

  On 3/13/2013 at 10:39 PM, Jamie said:

I just want to tell you good luck.. we're all counting on you.

 

Roger that......

[Steve65E-NC]

As recalled from my Coast Guard OCS radio training. Roger means only received with no commitment to action implied. If you mean to comply you say Wilco (will comply). Wikipedia confirms this and states that Roger was just the phonetic R before Romeo (the Letch!!) won the day.

So Roger is just a radio stand in for R (received). This is and was particularly appropriate for shipboard communication where the radio operator is seldom the decision maker. I think the appropriate response to an ATC direction/instruction/mandate (by a single pilot or radio operator in command of aircraft) is usually Wilco. Though you seldom hear it used.

Steve65E-NC

[FloridaMan]

I assume that's because anything that you'd use a Wilco for usually involves a readback. 

[aviatoreb]

  On 3/13/2013 at 11:06 PM, Steve65E-NC said:

As recalled from my Coast Guard OCS radio training. Roger means only received with no commitment to action implied. If you mean to comply you say Wilco (will comply). Wikipedia confirms this and states that Roger was just the phonetic R before Romeo (the Letch!!) won the day.

So Roger is just a radio stand in for R (received). This is and was particularly appropriate for shipboard communication where the radio operator is seldom the decision maker. I think the appropriate response to an ATC direction/instruction/mandate (by a single pilot or radio operator in command of aircraft) is usually Wilco. Though you seldom hear it used.

Steve65E-NC

 

Wow - well done.  Thanks for that.  This morning I heard a student say, "Roger that" to another student about doing something, and I say that once in a while - and it hit me at that moment - what does this thing mean?  And now I know....

[aviatoreb]

  On 3/13/2013 at 9:48 PM, fantom said:

Drinking, drugs, all night sex.....let's go fly

 

 

Ok, I know that drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden, but unless someone shows me the FAR against sex all night long, well, I'm not going to sleep early.

[Steve65E-NC]

Hugo,

 

I think the read back is just an accuracy check and is something short of a committment to action or compliance.  I have read back clearances that I did not begin to understand until I had studied the charts.  Bet this has, or will, come up in a court case.  

 

Steve

[rbridges]

  On 3/13/2013 at 11:33 PM, aviatoreb said:

Ok, I know that drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden, but unless someone shows me the FAR against sex all night long, well, I'm not going to sleep early.

 

 

IMSAFE.  F stands for fatigue.  You have to ask yourself, "did I get enough sleep or did I stay up too late having gratuitous sex?"

[Hank]

I know what my druthers are. :-)

[aviatoreb]

  On 3/14/2013 at 2:21 PM, rbridges said:

IMSAFE.  F stands for fatigue.  You have to ask yourself, "did I get enough sleep or did I stay up too late having gratuitous sex?"

 

I'm not convinced.  :-O

[aviatoreb]

  On 3/15/2013 at 12:55 AM, JimR said:

FWIW, I flew through Atlanta's airspace today and one of their controllers (whose manner I liked very much) must have used the phrase "Roger that" 15 or 20 times while I was flying through his sector. Made me think about you guys and this thread.

Jim

 

Roger that Jim!

[Jamie]

  On 3/15/2013 at 12:55 AM, JimR said:

 one of their controllers (whose manner I liked very much) must have used the phrase "Roger that" 15 or 20 times

 

He picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.