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1 hour ago, Schllc said:

It’s hard when you start out because you don’t really understand the vernacular, you don’t know the models of avionics and which ones are to be avoided and favored.

Not to mention the customized details, updates etc. so many things affect real value and get conflated with sales price. 
I would give two pieces of advice,

One, get a friend who has owned a few aircraft, or preferably a Mooney for a few years at least, to help you avoid easy pitfalls. 
Two, buy the newest, nicest plane you can afford. 
 

Three: That is flying regularly, and 20-30 hours a year doesn't count.

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Figure out what avionics you would want, then look for a plane with those installed already. It's expensive to piecemeal these things together... ask me how I know :-)

Posted
4 hours ago, Skates97 said:

It depends on what the OP is considering "travelling." For mostly local flying, a short body C/D/E I would argue is as good or better than anything else. They are simple and maintenance isn't what all the myths say it is. Even a mid-body G/F/J works for local flights. A K or a long body would be overkill if most flights are local. But, the short body or even a mid body gives you the flexibility to make the longer flights. Our plane is perfect for just punching holes in the sky, making a run for lunch, and still fast enough for the 3-500nm trips we regularly do.

I would add that flying a short/mid body means that you can draw a much larger circle for destinations for that hamburger run than flying something much slower.

Basically agree.

But a Mooney, to me, does not come across as the plane to own if your normal mission is an hour fooling around.  Or a 50 - 75 miles XC for a hamburger.

If you combine with some longer XC flying, sure.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Pinecone said:

Basically agree.

But a Mooney, to me, does not come across as the plane to own if your normal mission is an hour fooling around.  Or a 50 - 75 miles XC for a hamburger.

If you combine with some longer XC flying, sure.

With the Mooney you turn it into a 150 mile hamburger run. :)

But yes, if that is all you are going to do there are other choices. The Mooney gives you that option to easily make the 3-500 mile trip.

It also just comes down to what you like to fly. One of my hangar neighbors has a beautiful A36. There is rarely anyone besides him and his wife in it and they rarely fly more than about 75 miles to get lunch somewhere. I think in the three years we have been neighbors he's taken 2-3 trips that were longer than an hour, but he loves the plane and can afford it, so why not?

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Posted
9 hours ago, RoundTwo said:

1988 MOONEY M20K 252TSE Controller.com

This one fits your mission and budget and will put a smile on your face.

R2

 

That is nice.

OK panel, but perfectly flyable IFR.  It is a 430W, so you have WAAS.  That is a big thing.  The text says 2x Narco radios, but the pictures show only one.  Not sure why you would have two, along with the 430.

It would be nice if it already had the Encore upgrade.  That is about 15 AMU in parts from previous posts.

Hmm, it is not mentioned, but it looks like it has the Monroy tanks.  The text says 110 gallons, which is a bit high (mine is 104 with the Monroy tanks).  Downside is, with full fuel you have around 300 pound useful load.

Posted
1 minute ago, Skates97 said:

With the Mooney you turn it into a 150 mile hamburger run. :)

But yes, if that is all you are going to do there are other choices. The Mooney gives you that option to easily make the 3-500 mile trip.

It also just comes down to what you like to fly. One of my hangar neighbors has a beautiful A36. There is rarely anyone besides him and his wife in it and they rarely fly more than about 75 miles to get lunch somewhere. I think in the three years we have been neighbors he's taken 2-3 trips that were longer than an hour, but he loves the plane and can afford it, so why not?

Not saying it will not work.  Just trying to provide some insight to someone who is seeking knowledge.

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56 minutes ago, Pinecone said:

That is nice.

OK panel, but perfectly flyable IFR.  It is a 430W, so you have WAAS.  That is a big thing.  The text says 2x Narco radios, but the pictures show only one.  Not sure why you would have two, along with the 430.

It would be nice if it already had the Encore upgrade.  That is about 15 AMU in parts from previous posts.

Hmm, it is not mentioned, but it looks like it has the Monroy tanks.  The text says 110 gallons, which is a bit high (mine is 104 with the Monroy tanks).  Downside is, with full fuel you have around 300 pound useful load.

Monroy oversized tanks were installed but extra 2 gallons per side eliminated speed brakes. It lived in Australia the first part of its life.

R2

Posted
1 hour ago, Skates97 said:

Three: That is flying regularly, and 20-30 hours a year doesn't count.

Actually, this is probably more important than the first two.

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Posted
2 hours ago, RoundTwo said:

Monroy oversized tanks were installed but extra 2 gallons per side eliminated speed brakes. It lived in Australia the first part of its life.

R2

I have Monroy tanks on a 252.  Speed brakes were standard on the 252.   104 total fuel.

Posted
7 hours ago, DCarlton said:

That one seems like a great deal.  Are cylinder ADs or fuel prices driving down Ovation values.  At that price it looks better then a newer J.  

I asked about getting logs for that one and was told “l don’t have them scanned”. I kept on walking…

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I asked about getting logs for that one and was told “l don’t have them scanned”. I kept on walking…

And only 4 pictures, given it recently had damage from a gear up, I would think the seller would want to show pictures of the underside, not to mention none of the instrument panel?
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Posted
4 minutes ago, ArtVandelay said:


And only 4 pictures, given it recently had damage from a gear up, I would think the seller would want to show pictures of the underside, not to mention none of the instrument panel?

Yeah, this ^^^^

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