211º Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 Curious to hear about other's thoughts on keeping the mind active and useful during long cross country flights. Sometimes when I have a long cross country, I'll shoot a video, make a list of tasks to complete, or zero-in on becoming one with the engine. But I'm looking for other ideas and to hear other MSer's tricks. Tasks that require too much brain power (I've discovered) are doing cross-word puzzles or playing computer chess. This may be a stretch to ask on MooneySpace, but any thoughts, opinions, or ideas about keeping occupied and useful during (say) three hours at altitude. Quote
takair Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 I don’t do many trips beyond two hours these days, but as I break the one hour mark I may throw on music to break up the time. Also play the usual game of “where would I land now” if the engine quits. One task we are supposed to do, but I don’t see often in GA planes is monitoring guard frequency. Every so often that can lead to reporting an ELT and every so often it leads to a real deal. In my particular plane, my number two radio automatically breaks squelch on this frequency, making it very sensitive, but annoying to listen to. Beyond that, I am doing the usual weather checks and such….usually too often to be useful. I can see on flights longer than two hours, occupying ones mind is an important task. It is perhaps one reason I don’t enjoy longer flights as much as some other folks. Will be curious to hear some of the other advice. 1 Quote
Mooney Dog Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 I never do anything unrelated to the flight while in cruise. Nice try FAA! For real, I keep a good plan of what's happening and what should be happening, though i primarily fly IFR so im talking to someone on and off mostly for frequency changes. I do listen to instrumental music while in flight quite a bit. I find a lot of the video game sound tracks do a great job at keeping me alert and focus. In the jet, i wouldnt dream of doing anything else other than light music. Im the mooney, probably the same. 1 1 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 We are supposed to be looking out the window for other planes. Anything that takes your attention away from that is a bad thing. I prefer listening to stories, podcasts or talk radio if I’m not getting flight following. 2 Quote
Bob - S50 Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 I must be really boring. I don't do anything other than flight related tasks or checking with my passengers. On long flights I print out a flight log. For me, I find the one on SkyVector most nearly approximates the information I would print if I had total control. The one on 1-800-WxBrief is not to my liking even though I've asked them several times to allow each pilot to roll their own. At waypoints about 20 minutes apart I record the time and fuel and compare it with the projection. I then record the difference as either plus or minus some value for each (just like we did at the airlines). After two or three points you can start to detect a trend of coming up short on fuel or making fuel. Between that, listening to ATC, checking weather ahead with ADS-B IN, checking engine instruments, trying to spot traffic I see on ADS-B, and enjoying the view; that's enough for me. 4 Quote
Hank Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 I roll my own flight logs, with every airport and VOR close to my path. I tune and verify the many fewer VORs, listen to AWOS of airports ahead of me, talk to ATC either IFR or Flight Following, and watch the world go by. When weather is marginal or I'm in the clouds, I check weather ahead much more often, and crib notes on it. When it's CAVU and I'm going 2-3 hours or more, sometimes I run out of things to do, especially if it's hazy and can't see much. But I'm rarely bored, and certainly don't read books or play games . . . . 3 Quote
McMooney Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 I generally fly IFR or atleast have FF, so constantly listening for ATC. watch engine gauges and fuel flows. look for engine out locations. look for interesting things on the ground. sometimes music but it's annoying as it's constantly interrupted by atc. I fly between 8000 and 12000 ft, every so often check the pulse ox and maybe take a couple puffs of oxygen just to stay fresh. I also find 8k plus avoids most traffic. honestly, once en-route at altitude, it isn't even .25 the workload of driving. 1 Quote
Marauder Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 I’m really surprised no one has said they take a nap. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 1 Quote
McMooney Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, Marauder said: I’m really surprised no one has said they take a nap. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro need better autopilot 1 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 I’m really surprised no one has said they take a nap. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ProBecause the FAA doesn’t have a sense of humor. Quote
Hank Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Marauder said: I’m really surprised no one has said they take a nap. That'd be my wife . . . Usually on the way home, or after a few minutes in the clouds. She told me not to post any more pictures of her sleeping in the plane . . . . . 1 1 Quote
DanM20C Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Marauder said: I’m really surprised no one has said they take a nap. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro That’s what I used to do. Then that one time I slept too long Dan 2 1 5 Quote
Will.iam Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, DanM20C said: That’s what I used to do. Then that one time I slept too long Dan So you’re the one. Quote
GeeBee Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 Not paying attention is how you end up deadsticking into Lajes Quote
Will.iam Posted August 14, 2021 Report Posted August 14, 2021 Or not believing that you are seeing and assuming it can’t possibly be a fuel leak. Quote
211º Posted August 15, 2021 Author Report Posted August 15, 2021 Kind of a side topic... I'm kind of amazed how terrain and points of interest become familiar. Not just things like crossing the Mississippi R or Wabash R, but specific smoke stacks, notable Warning Areas (one in Indiana is a miles by miles rectangle of trees surround by farms), an airport by a prison, a power plant seemingly in the middle of nowhere, antennas-from-heck to name a few. Quote
Danb Posted August 15, 2021 Report Posted August 15, 2021 I take numerous 1000+ mile trips yearly, keeping busy checking engine temps etc, keeping on course going around storms, checking and cross checking destination airport and approach plates, checking on OXIMETER and saturation levels and charting fuel usage every 30 minutes even though I have a totalizer keeps me quite busy generally never bored, I’m relating to IFR flight. I’m sure I’ve missed numerous other tasks 1 Quote
skydvrboy Posted August 15, 2021 Report Posted August 15, 2021 I feel like I’m still a total rookie who is still trying to get this flying thing ingrained in my head. As such, I try to treat every flight like a training flight and rotate through all the navigation options I learned as a student. So some flights are gps, some I’ll tune and follow VOR’s, some are pilotage looking for visual waypoints. But the fun ones are when I go full Lindbergh, get the winds aloft forecast, calculate the WCA, fly a heading for a duration and see how close I come. Between the navigation, atc comms, monitoring activities, and hand flying all the time, I’m never bored. 2 Quote
midlifeflyer Posted August 15, 2021 Report Posted August 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Hank said: That'd be my wife . . . Usually on the way home, or after a few minutes in the clouds. She told me not to post any more pictures of her sleeping in the plane . . . . . Mine too. It started 3 days after I earned my Private. First passenger, first ride. Short flight over a nearby landmark. Fell asleep in the way back. Been doing it ever since. 1 Quote
1964-M20E Posted August 15, 2021 Report Posted August 15, 2021 I listen to ATC tune in VORs on NAV2 and try to know where I am while flying the magenta line.. I slide my seat back kick off my shoes have a snack assuming the flight attendant is on board and working. Quote
Bob - S50 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, midlifeflyer said: Fell asleep in the way back. Been doing it ever since. Which we should all take as a compliment. 1 Quote
McMooney Posted August 16, 2021 Report Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/15/2021 at 7:32 AM, 1964-M20E said: I listen to ATC tune in VORs on NAV2 and try to know where I am while flying the magenta line.. I slide my seat back kick off my shoes have a snack assuming the flight attendant is on board and working. figured out, sliding the seat back in an E is actually worth a knot or two. 2 Quote
211º Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Posted August 17, 2021 3 hours ago, McMooney said: figured out, sliding the seat back in an E is actually worth a knot or two. Yes!!! And easier to rest elbow on knee! Quote
MB65E Posted August 17, 2021 Report Posted August 17, 2021 Take a small screwdriver and check all the tiny interior screws. build a checklist in the gns 430/530. What a pain. try going pee in a container listing to center. Negative Auto pilot. Lol! micro manage your fuel to the 10th gallon. -Matt 1 Quote
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