C For sale on ebay

[patriot3300]

The results are in ?

check out the same brokers sale just a few weeks ago on this Grob.......First it was on barnstormers for 30k

Then showed up on eBay and sold for ? 30k 

Today the barnstormers add says Sold 14,500

DOES THIS MAKE YOU question anything here ????

GROB SELF LAUNCH MOTORGLIDER • $14,500 • SOLD!! • GROB 109B 2 place touring mtrgldr, NOW $14,500, reasonable offers considered, as is, flies great, needs some gel coat work, 5 hr SMOH, new windshield Apr 2018, 85-90 kt cruise, 3-4 gph, 26 gal fuel, 28:1 glide ratio, 57’ foldable wings, Becker 5 channel prgrmmbl radio, Bendix/King transponder (KT 76A), ADS-B out unit, new annual, 433 lb useful load, new wt & bal, 3 prop settings (climb, cruise, feather), no damage history, wheel pants, VFR flight, position, strobe & landing lights, Grob 2500 E1(VW eng w/Porsche heads), 95hp, 3 new tires, great x-country flyer. Needs Hobbs meter. At N57 in PA • Contact Rich Kochanski , Owner - located Warrington, PA United States • Telephone: 215 738-9253 • Posted May 24, 2021 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad • View Larger Images

1985 Burkhart Grob 109B Motor Glider Cross Country Flyer 1985 Burkhart Grob 109B Motor Glider No Damage History Logs Complete See original listing
	Condition: Used
	Ended: Apr 29, 2021 , 3:36PM
	Winning bid: US $30,000.00 [ 43 bids ]
	Shipping:
	Item location: Warrington, Pennsylvania, United States
	Seller: fsbovehicles (259 )   |

1963 Mooney M20C 1963 Mooney M20C Always Hangered & Maintained Logs Complete Lycoming 0360  See original listing
	Condition: Used
	Ended: Jun 22, 2021 , 12:00PM
	Winning bid: US $30,100.00 [ 66 bids ]
	Shipping:
	Item location: Seneca Falls, New York, United States
	Seller: fsbovehicles (259 )   |  Seller's other items

[59Moonster]

Good thing ebay doesn't have a comment section for items. Those would have quite the wall of shame!!! 

[patriot3300]

I agree 100% on that wall of shame !!!!

 

The real point I’m trying to make here is this C is NOT representative of the TRUE market !

How many of these bids are legitimate?

Did this airplane actually sell for the posted price ?

Hopefuly some newbie isn’t the buyer and has just begun the painful process of returning to reality.....

[cliffy]

One can always wait to see if the registration changes in a few months

[Raptor05121]

On 6/17/2021 at 7:38 PM, patriot3300 said:

Ive been looking closely at the market for a while....

This is purely people that don't know what they are buying.

Hopefully somebody notices this and stops bidding !

Why do you care so much about a plane you have zero interest in buying.

This sale brings hope I won't eat my lunch if I sell my plane. Similarly equipped but currently flying and in better shape.

[patriot3300]

Just now, Raptor05121 said:

Why do you care so much about a plane you have zero interest in buying.

This sale brings hope I won't eat my lunch if I sell my plane. Similarly equipped but currently flying and in better shape.

I am Just trying to Look Out for people (Newbies) mainly that don’t know any better that’s all.

Why question my motives?.....I hope I helped somebody raising the red flag:)

And I’m a bit tired of watching people get hosed on buying their 1st airplane.

Hope yours is worth double what you paid:):)

Stuart

 

[Raptor05121]

Just now, patriot3300 said:

Hope yours is worth double what you paid:):)

 

You're preaching to the choir. A vast majority of people on here are the farthest sense from the term "newbie". Coming from management of another Mooney-centric message board, I don't fare well with people quarreling over sales price of a plane they aren't shopping for.

Considering I paid $16,500 for mine, if it sold for $33k I'd be beyond chuffed.
 

[patriot3300]

24 minutes ago, Raptor05121 said:

You're preaching to the choir. A vast majority of people on here are the farthest sense from the term "newbie". Coming from management of another Mooney-centric message board, I don't fare well with people quarreling over sales price of a plane they aren't shopping for.

Considering I paid $16,500 for mine, if it sold for $33k I'd be beyond chuffed.
 

 

[patriot3300]

Sorry,  it sounds like you are the one with the problem here !

I am used to doing the right thing and getting heat....par for the course !

Nobody is forcing you to read anything on this forum.

I guess free speech doesn’t apply on Mooneyspace ????

 

 

[Skates97]

1 hour ago, patriot3300 said:

Sorry,  it sounds like you are the one with the problem here !

I am used to doing the right thing and getting heat....par for the course !

Nobody is forcing you to read anything on this forum.

I guess free speech doesn’t apply on Mooneyspace ????

On the topic of free speech, just because something can be said does not mean it should be said. Mooneyspace is more than just an online forum, it is a community.

[patriot3300]

Agree 100 % !!!!

A few years ago I refused to shut my mouth about some safety concerns at the airport where I worked.

After being harassed for months I relocated my business.

Six weeks later the party in Question died as a results of his injuries in Guess What ? An airplane !

Did I do the right thing ? Did anybody call and pat me on the back ? Nope....

Is a good community filled with people afraid to speak?

Ask yourself how is this community  presenting itself too me....

 

[patriot3300]

One week later and a Much better Mooney pops up !

Mooney 1970 MOONEY M20F, 3899 TT, 1201 SMOH, 684 SNEW 3BLADE NO ACCIDENT, OUT OF ANNUAL See original listing
	Condition: --
	Ended: Jun 26, 2021 , 11:41PM
	Price: US $29,950.00
	Shipping:
	Item location: NEW BERN,NC, United States
	Seller: wentworthaircraftinc (6522 )   |

[patriot3300]

Please do not take this post as being anything negative.

Hopefully   when this aircraft shows up again at 65amu everyone will have a heads up as to where this  book started.

I sincerely wish to Help....that is all:)

Stuart

[carusoam]

Stuart,

Keep in mind…

1) Not everyone is going to understand you…

2) It’s quite possible, you may misunderstand somebody else here…

3) MS is a very diverse group of people…

4) Sometimes it can be disappointing when you do the right thing and somebody else makes a mistake…

5) Doing the right thing, the wrong way… can get messy.

Every hangar queen, ramp rat, project plane… and pile of parts seems to be coming forwards…

 

Think up a friendly way to let a newbie know this less than usual circumstance that the newest of new normals has presented…

If skilled… throw in some humor….  

Hang out… see how many MSers you can get to know…

Keep track of your score…  How many people you welcome into the community… vs how many you accidentally turn away…

We can’t afford to lose any…

Or have them turn a blind ear to what you have to say… when you have something that will keep them from falling out of the sky… there is that convenient ignore User button…

Keep MS interesting… because that newbie you are trying to reach… has to hear you. 

Communities are made up of real people… they are not going to all respond the same way as you may expect…

Best regards,

-a-