patriot3300

https://knr-inc.com/shoptalk-articles/25-shoptalk/87-201712-pre-buy-part-1

https://www.dugosh.com/buying-mooney-aircraft

Yes,It was advertised on barnstormers a while Back and the owner claimed it could easily be made ferriable. Your description reaffirms what an A&p on the field had verbally described to me. It appears to be a complete basket case indeed:(

Please do not take this post as being anything negative. Hopefully when this aircraft shows up again at 65amu everyone will have a heads up as to where this book started. I sincerely wish to Help....that is all:) Stuart

One week later and a Much better Mooney pops up ! Mooney 1970 MOONEY M20F, 3899 TT, 1201 SMOH, 684 SNEW 3BLADE NO ACCIDENT, OUT OF ANNUAL See original listing Condition: -- Ended: Jun 26, 2021 , 11:41PM Price: US $29,950.00 Shipping: Item location: NEW BERN,NC, United States Seller: wentworthaircraftinc (6522 ) |

Good evening gentlemen,Eight8victor I appreciate your thinking of me:) Unfortunately the aircraft I was considering turned out be to big of a project(mostly based on info from a A&p on the field with said aircraft)and It is based at airglades. Miami mooniac although I have no insight to share on the Mooney at Leward it’s appears from your other posts you are headed in the right direction:) Best of Luck:) Stuart

Nobody at my house is crying.... But the poor slob that bought that C on ebay most likely will. The only crying here Is C owners worried about their aircrafts value. Im actually wanting to Help people. Do your comments Help anyone?

Thanks Philip,I believe your analysis is very accurate and I will no longer respond to personal insults, etc. Now back to the real reason for this post. I feel that there are many people like me that never speak out for the very reason you see displayed above. If you are looking for a Mooney and don't want to expose yourself to ridicule please pm me. I am happy to give away 30 minutes of my time to help a person with the right attitude. No, I am not a mooney owner but do hold an A&P and have bought-sold read about and dreamed aircraft since i can remember. Thank You, Stuart

Please explain to me why Attempting to inform others that caution might be needed is taboo.... I am not into getting personal here just trying to lay out same facts... I believe my 1st post explained my perspective very well.... DID YOU READ IT ? patriot3300 Advanced Member Supporter 4 33 posts Posted Thursday at 04:28 PM My thought on this aircraft was if i could buy it reasonably id take a week of and do a proper annual on it. I also planned to look in person before bidding, now that its overpriced(imho)i won't be persuing it and just wanted to give a heads up for other newbies on the forum. IMHO if you pay 25k for this you will be under water UNLESS you can do virtually ALL the wrenching. If you like more of my personal opinion please pm me. Thanks Stuart Is my agenda Made clear !!! Im sorry you guys are taking this as a personal assault on the value of your C Model.......It is NOT personal At All ! Stuart

In a recent post I was informed that...... You're preaching to the choir. A vast majority of people on here are the farthest sense from the term "newbie". Coming from management of another Mooney-centric message board, I don't fare well with people quarreling over sales price of a plane they aren't shopping for. Seems a bit testy to me....... So new guys Let’s hear your voice ! I joined years ago and listened/learned for a long time before ever posting and Didn’t post until I felt I had something relevant to say. How many others are here doing the same ?? Does anyone want a person with some knowledge looking out for them ? I haven’t worked on every Mooney model out there.....but have wrenched on a few...I do have a Ppl and my A&p and fly my own airplane. I have also bought and sold several airplanes. Perhaps I’m way to sensitive ? I know there are Many great people here and I’d love to hear their thoughts ! Stuart

Agree 100 % !!!! A few years ago I refused to shut my mouth about some safety concerns at the airport where I worked. After being harassed for months I relocated my business. Six weeks later the party in Question died as a results of his injuries in Guess What ? An airplane ! Did I do the right thing ? Did anybody call and pat me on the back ? Nope.... Is a good community filled with people afraid to speak? Ask yourself how is this community presenting itself too me....

Sorry, it sounds like you are the one with the problem here ! I am used to doing the right thing and getting heat....par for the course ! Nobody is forcing you to read anything on this forum. I guess free speech doesn’t apply on Mooneyspace ????

I am Just trying to Look Out for people (Newbies) mainly that don’t know any better that’s all. Why question my motives?.....I hope I helped somebody raising the red flag:) And I’m a bit tired of watching people get hosed on buying their 1st airplane. Hope yours is worth double what you paid:):) Stuart

I agree 100% on that wall of shame !!!! The real point I’m trying to make here is this C is NOT representative of the TRUE market ! How many of these bids are legitimate? Did this airplane actually sell for the posted price ? Hopefuly some newbie isn’t the buyer and has just begun the painful process of returning to reality.....

The results are in ? check out the same brokers sale just a few weeks ago on this Grob.......First it was on barnstormers for 30k Then showed up on eBay and sold for ? 30k Today the barnstormers add says Sold 14,500 DOES THIS MAKE YOU question anything here ???? GROB SELF LAUNCH MOTORGLIDER • $14,500 • SOLD!! • GROB 109B 2 place touring mtrgldr, NOW $14,500, reasonable offers considered, as is, flies great, needs some gel coat work, 5 hr SMOH, new windshield Apr 2018, 85-90 kt cruise, 3-4 gph, 26 gal fuel, 28:1 glide ratio, 57’ foldable wings, Becker 5 channel prgrmmbl radio, Bendix/King transponder (KT 76A), ADS-B out unit, new annual, 433 lb useful load, new wt & bal, 3 prop settings (climb, cruise, feather), no damage history, wheel pants, VFR flight, position, strobe & landing lights, Grob 2500 E1(VW eng w/Porsche heads), 95hp, 3 new tires, great x-country flyer. Needs Hobbs meter. At N57 in PA • Contact Rich Kochanski , Owner - located Warrington, PA United States • Telephone: 215 738-9253 • Posted May 24, 2021 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad • View Larger Images 1985 Burkhart Grob 109B Motor Glider Cross Country Flyer 1985 Burkhart Grob 109B Motor Glider No Damage History Logs Complete See original listing Condition: Used Ended: Apr 29, 2021 , 3:36PM Winning bid: US $30,000.00 [ 43 bids ] Shipping: Item location: Warrington, Pennsylvania, United States Seller: fsbovehicles (259 ) | 1963 Mooney M20C 1963 Mooney M20C Always Hangered & Maintained Logs Complete Lycoming 0360 See original listing Condition: Used Ended: Jun 22, 2021 , 12:00PM Winning bid: US $30,100.00 [ 66 bids ] Shipping: Item location: Seneca Falls, New York, United States Seller: fsbovehicles (259 ) | Seller's other items

This J is a much better Deal !!!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/144079454354?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D9f28bb22efb84f53ba4d6b80f5b9d7e9%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D254908166139%26itm%3D144079454354%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aa8bc06d1-d36e-11eb-93bd-1e751bd83cb9|parentrq%3A345760cd17a0ad39345522b4fff4c08e|iid%3A1

https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/205658875/1983-mooney-m20k-231-piston-single-aircraft

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Market has blown a Tire ! 1983 MOONEY M20K 231 Piston Single Aircraft Select Your CurrencyUSDAEDARSAUDBGNBOBBRLBWPBZDCADCHFCLPCNYCOPCRCCZKDKKEGPEURGBPGHSGTQHKDHNLHRKHUFIDRILSINRJODJPYKRWLBPLKRMADMXNMYRNADNIONOKNZDPABPENPKRPLNPYGQARRONRSDRUBSARSEKSGDTHBTNDTRYTWDTZSUAHUSDUYUVESXAFZARZMW $69,900

Thanks for the info on the d/c model. This 39k obo Above is more inline with reality.....Imho Stuart

Yes this is ancient history but.....what else is there over the past 58 years ? Look at the wing repair in 1965 Then ask yourself how many other things happened over 50+years and check out the date of the last 337....wow Lets see All original 63C for 25k add says no damage history...dont even know the avionics installed... Must be the cleanest 4000 hour mooney out there.... 6718-d1.pdf Many repairs are not documented and many annuals are the 500.00 pencil whip.....just food for thought. This aircraft has not been annualed since the current owner purchased it (in 2016) looking at its records and the ADD ON EBAY.

This is exactly what i'm talking about....yes the panel is narco This market thing is overblown....MAKE OFFER • $39,999 • ACCEPTING OFFERS • Mooney m20c 600 smoh fresh annual 180 hp o360 NARCO radio 8.5 gph wing leveler auto pilot • Contact Ron Moore ,

Chris and skates....Thanks guys for the replies.....To me this d is a bit on the high side assuming no unknown issues....I see plenty of C models for 55k and they are not selling. There are a few e models listed around 50-55k that seem to be much better deals.

That is great news ! and what i was trying to say in the first place. I have never seen a Retract Mooney with a Fixed pitch prop....Thank You !!!! Now tell me again why it has been on the market for months while an out of annual 2016(cant read the log entry) c with a runout engine poor paint ancient panel etc is going to bring 25k on ebay ?