FlyingDude Posted March 25, 2021 Report Posted March 25, 2021 Pilots can opt out of listing their addresses on the faa certificate database. I don't understand why planes must be tied to a publicly available address ... 1 Quote
FlyingDude Posted March 25, 2021 Report Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) On 3/19/2021 at 3:01 AM, jaylw314 said: whether it should be considered good form for an individual to post some person's name and address on a social website without their awareness or permission. It might even be illegal! For instance, you're not allowed to take pictures of random strangers in public. Honestly I wouldn't care if they posted my plane with blurred reg #, without any traceability to me. I wouldn't care if it was shown anonymously, say like on a page that shows "typical journeys and stats by aircraft type and time of year", or just plane pictures, or something like that. Let's admit it, planes are cool and we "need" people who like planes and pilots. Imagine if everyone became noise-sensitive Edited March 25, 2021 by FlyingDude Quote
jetdriven Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 5 hours ago, FlyingDude said: It might even be illegal! For instance, you're not allowed to take pictures of random strangers in public. Not so sure about that statement in general. https://www.findlaw.com/injury/torts-and-personal-injuries/can-someone-take-my-photo-without-permission.html Quote
FlyingDude Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 Guys, some updates: I signed up for FAA LADD "block at FAA level". It should kick in next Thu. In the meanwhile, I inquired with Flightaware about the "subscriber level" blocking. Here's their answer: When an aircraft owner signs up for the FAA LADD program at the subscriber level, the aircraft becomes blocked to public tracking on our website. The owner/operator can have access to the tracking of this aircraft by signing up for FlightAware Global - Gold or Platinum tier. From this point, the owner/operator will have control over which users are permitted to have access to tracking the flight as well.You can find more information about this product here: https://flightaware.com/commercial/global/ The gold costs $140/month, $1400/year. So, if you ever wondered how much your privacy cost, this is your answer. Quote
FlyingDude Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 13 hours ago, jetdriven said: Not so sure about that statement in general. https://www.findlaw.com/injury/torts-and-personal-injuries/can-someone-take-my-photo-without-permission.html Yeah, it's focusing on the "incidental capture of a person while taking the picture of something else." I think in the case of plane spotters, they are not really taking pictures of the airport fence, with you or your happening to be in the background. I can't even come up with a contorted justification for publishing it on public or private websites. Quote
A64Pilot Posted March 26, 2021 Author Report Posted March 26, 2021 Yet, many if not most of the tracking sites will post pictures of the aircraft as well if they can get them. ‘I guess just in case the N number wasn’t enough to identify it? Quote
A64Pilot Posted March 26, 2021 Author Report Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, FlyingDude said: Guys, some updates: I signed up for FAA LADD "block at FAA level". It should kick in next Thu. In the meanwhile, I inquired with Flightaware about the "subscriber level" blocking. Here's their answer: When an aircraft owner signs up for the FAA LADD program at the subscriber level, the aircraft becomes blocked to public tracking on our website. The owner/operator can have access to the tracking of this aircraft by signing up for FlightAware Global - Gold or Platinum tier. From this point, the owner/operator will have control over which users are permitted to have access to tracking the flight as well.You can find more information about this product here: https://flightaware.com/commercial/global/ The gold costs $140/month, $1400/year. So, if you ever wondered how much your privacy cost, this is your answer. So your saying that even if you sign up for LADD with the FAA someone can subvert that by paying Flight Aware a fee and get your tracking data anyway? Or are you saying that for a fee you can allow some but not others to track your aircraft, even if you have signed up for LADD. Or what are you saying, sorry I’m dense I guess. Quote
FlyingDude Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, A64Pilot said: Yet, many if not most of the tracking sites will post pictures of the aircraft as well if they can get them. ‘I guess just in case the N number wasn’t enough to identify it? If they blur out the reg#, I'm cool with that... Btw, I googled my plane's reg # and found a pic of it from really 2000s. Wanted to see her skin before the paint job Quote
FlyingDude Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, A64Pilot said: what are you saying, Man, I'm not saying anything. I'm just copy-pasting. It seems like FAA can block your traffic data for everyone (at source) or if you choose "at subscriber level", then these sites (like flightaware) do not release it to the whole world. Instead, they let you and other people designated by you to track you... That comes at the costs listed above. Very frankly,if it were cheaper, I would actually buy the service and allow my family and close friends track me Quote
PaulM Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 Don't go here: https://www.adsbexchange.com Or run your own ADSB receiver. The proposed defense for the high rollers will be pools of ICAO ID#s from 3rd party providers: https://adsbperformance.faa.gov/PIA/Application.aspx https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2019/december/24/ads-b-privacy-now-available Of course one Plane spotter and your anonymity is decloaked for the lifespan of the current ID. 1 Quote
A64Pilot Posted March 26, 2021 Author Report Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, FlyingDude said: Very frankly,if it were cheaper, I would actually buy the service and allow my family and close friends track me On the boat we had a Garmin in reach that was great for that, different plans but $12 a month and whoever you want can track you, you send them a link to a website and it shows position and of course your tracks, and the tracks persist for years so you can zoom out on our “map” and see everywhere we went in the Caribbean, and the in reach can send and receive txts and send SOS messages, but I wouldn’t consider it a replacement for an ELT or PLB myself but some do. Edited March 26, 2021 by A64Pilot Quote
FlyingDude Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, PaulM said: Don't go here Don't these people have lives? Well maybe they'd love to fly but can't afford it, so this is how they feel close to the aviation community... Or they're a bunch of 40 yr-old virgin weirdos living in their parents' basements... All I know is that I'm not actually worth all that attention. Seriously. Edited March 26, 2021 by FlyingDude Quote
EricJ Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, FlyingDude said: Don't these people have lives? Well maybe they'd love to fly but can't afford it, so this is how they feel close to the aviation community... Or they're a bunch of 40 yr-old virgin weirdos living in their parents' basements... All I know is that I'm not actually worth all that attention. Seriously. Train spotting for airplanes. It's not unusual or weird. Happens with ships, too, even interesting cars and houses and satellites. Not all that far removed from ham radio, either. It's a very, very common thing. 1 Quote
FlyingDude Posted March 26, 2021 Report Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, EricJ said: It's a very, very common thing. People need to get laid more... Seriously. 1 Quote
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