kmhanson Posted May 15, 2018 Report Posted May 15, 2018 1965 Mooney M20E Super 21 N79865 - Serial #528 Price: $43,000 USD Contact: Kevin Hanson Phone: 913-269-6498, Email: kevin@n903wt.com General: (Click here for pdf spec sheet) 3947 TT 1554 SMOH 1178 TSPOH – Hartzell HC-C2YK-1BF Excellent condition and extremely well maintained classic Mooney! The ’65 E is often considered the best Mooney of the Pre-201 Era Fast and economical: ~150KT @10GPH! Aircraft hangared at Pompano Airpark in Pompano Beach, FL Always US-based and hangared Owned since 2007; Previous owner owned since 1992 Complete logbooks since new. Annual condition inspection will be complete 5/18/2018 IFR Certification due 10/2019 ELT battery replaced 5/2018 High Resolution Photo gallery: Click for high resolution photo gallery here Engine: Lycoming 200hp IO-360-A1A, fuel injected Compressions at 5/2017 annual 76/80, 72/80, 72/80, 70/80 Alternator STC Upgrade Avionics: Nav/Com 1 Narco Mark 12D - IDME w/Glide Slope Com 2 King KX175B•Narco ADF 31A w/ Davtron Digital Readout BendixKing KT 76A Transponder SSD120-XXA-RS232 Mode C Altitude Encoder/Digitizer Apollo IFR GPS GX50 S-TEC 30 Autopilot w/ Altitude Hold Autopilot coupled to Nav 1 and Apollo II GX50 Mid-Continent CDI w/ Built-in Annunciator (MD40-65L) Precise Flight Standby Vacuum System III Flight Com System 4-Place Intercom w/Clearance Recorder and Tape Player Panel Layout Upgraded to Standard 6-Pack Additional Equipment: Electric Gear Wingtip Strobes O&N Fuel Tank Bladders Installed by Maxwell Cowl Closure & Brake Cylinder Rotation New Style Gear Pucks New Interior 2001 Custom Aircraft Cover Interior 7.5•Exterior 8 Comments: Minor Damage 7/88 & 3/92 Expertly & Appropriately Repaired 1
carusoam Posted May 16, 2018 Report Posted May 16, 2018 Great first post, Kevin! (Been an MSer longer than me...) Best regards, -a-
FlyingVAce Posted September 15, 2018 Report Posted September 15, 2018 Just wondering if this plane is still for sale ?
FlyingVAce Posted September 16, 2018 Report Posted September 16, 2018 Hoping this bird is still for sale?
JRam Posted September 16, 2018 Report Posted September 16, 2018 9 hours ago, FlyingVAce said: Hoping this bird is still for sale? My guess is it would be best to contact him directly. On 5/15/2018 at 9:46 AM, kmhanson said: Contact: Kevin Hanson Phone: 913-269-6498, Email: kevin@n903wt.com General: (Click here for pdf spec sheet)
Mcstealth Posted September 18, 2018 Report Posted September 18, 2018 @gsxrpilot @LANCECASPER what kind of dollars would it take to get this panel to a level you would accept? DF
LANCECASPER Posted September 18, 2018 Report Posted September 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Mcstealth said: what kind of dollars would it take to get this panel to a level you would accept? On this airplane, if I already owned it . . . since it already has an enroute and non-precision approach GPS (Apollo GX50) and a capable autopilot (STEC 30). I would take the simple route first and get ads-b out taken care of. If you did a GDL82 you could leave the existing transponder. You would just need an ipad and a portable ads-b in device. That would set you back $2000 with an A & P doing the install. If you want to spend $6000, get rid of the old transponder and put in a Garmin GTX 345 and then spend $1000 on a used Garmin 796 and mount it on the yoke. The 796 will talk to the GTX345 and display ADS-B in and synthetic vision. I would do those things and fly it . . there will be plenty of other places to spend money on a 53 year old airplane. Once you start dumping $10's of $1,000's into it, it better be the airplane of your dreams. If I didn't own this airplane but I was looking for an E model my best bet would be to find one that has the panel I already want. I'd be getting the upgrades for pennies on the dollar. Ask me how I know this . . . the airplane I have now I have spent a lot of money upgrading. I could have bought one that was the way I want for less. My justification has been that the airframe only had 600 TT on it. Live and learn . . lol 2
gsxrpilot Posted September 18, 2018 Report Posted September 18, 2018 I'm somewhat in agreement with @LANCECASPER on this. If I owned the airplane... I'd be installing an engine monitor right now. Probably a G2 ($2500) if I know I'll be selling in the future or an EDM900 ($5K) if it's my forever airplane. I would also be shopping for a used 430W ($8K) or 530W to give me better radios and a moving map GPS. I'd also be looking for a 330ES ($2K) transponder from @Alan Fox so I'd have ADSB... which would only work if you had already put in a WAAS GPS. I'd also be scouring Barnstormers for an HSI... ($500) Given enough time and patience I think $12K would get it done to an acceptable level for me. If I didn't own this airplane... I would maybe keep looking? But maybe not. Well built E's are getting more and more difficult to find. Typically my minimums would be an Stec30 autopilot and a 430W. If you have that, you can build the rest pretty economically. This one is missing the WAAS GPS and that's about an $8K problem. 3
Alan Fox Posted September 18, 2018 Report Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, LANCECASPER said: On this airplane, if I already owned it . . . since it already has an enroute and non-precision approach GPS (Apollo GX50) and a capable autopilot (STEC 30). I would take the simple route first and get ads-b out taken care of. If you did a GDL82 you could leave the existing transponder. You would just need an ipad and a portable ads-b in device. That would set you back $2000 with an A & P doing the install. If you want to spend $6000, get rid of the old transponder and put in a Garmin GTX 345 and then spend $1000 on a used Garmin 796 and mount it on the yoke. The 796 will talk to the GTX345 and display ADS-B in and synthetic vision. I would do those things and fly it . . there will be plenty of other places to spend money on a 53 year old airplane. Once you start dumping $10's of $1,000's into it, it better be the airplane of your dreams. If I didn't own this airplane but I was looking for an E model my best bet would be to find one that has the panel I already want. I'd be getting the upgrades for pennies on the dollar. Ask me how I know this . . . the airplane I have now I have spent a lot of money upgrading. I could have bought one that was the way I want for less. My justification has been that the airframe only had 600 TT on it. Live and learn . . lol How do you get an 1800.00 adsb GDL82 in an aircraft , for 2000.00 , Its a ten hour install ??
LANCECASPER Posted September 18, 2018 Report Posted September 18, 2018 On 9/18/2018 at 3:13 PM, Alan Fox said: How do you get an 1800.00 adsb GDL82 in an aircraft , for 2000.00 , Its a ten hour install ?? If I needed one here's how I would do it for $2000: After reading the manual, I'd discuss with my A&P/IA where he thinks the GDL-82 should be mounted and go over with him where the antenna should be and how he thinks the harness should be run. gdl82install.pdf 1) Then I'd buy a GDL-82 from Aircraft Spruce with the 10 foot harness for $1733.75. 2) Then I'd pull the side panel and headliner and run the antenna cable. I'd put the other end of the GPS antenna cable on the GDL82 (See #1 Below). The cable that was on the antenna I'd put on the other GDL 82 connector (See #2 below). I'd also pull the belly panel where the transponder antenna is. The cable that previously ran from from the transponder to the antenna I would put on the XPNDR connection on the GDL-82 (See #3 below). 3) Then from the harness I purchased I'd run the power and ground up behind the circuit breakers and plug the other end into J821 on the GDL-82 (See #4 above) . My A & P would drill the hole for the antenna and connect power and ground and inspect the work I did. Then we would test and troubleshoot if necessary and he would do the paperwork and sign off. I would pay him more than he asks and still be slightly under $2000. But even if it ended up a couple hundred over, in aviation terms that's pretty close. I do my annuals this way and assisted him with a top end overhaul earlier this year. That's the advantage of the GDL-82, anyone with common sense can do the basics of it with some adult supervision. It's not rocket surgery. But I also understand that not everyone wants to be that involved. I enjoy learning and usually when it's over I'm happy I only had to do it once. 7
Alan Fox Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 Not sure most people have access to a free IA , not to mention , someone capable of doing the paperwork , Oh and I forgot , a Garmin dealer willing to program it for free...
LANCECASPER Posted September 19, 2018 Report Posted September 19, 2018 16 hours ago, Alan Fox said: 1) Not sure most people have access to a free IA , not to mention , someone capable of doing the paperwork , 2) Oh and I forgot , a Garmin dealer willing to program it for free... 1) You asked how I would do it for $2000. I explained. I can't think of anyone who does have access to a free IA. We have a long standing relationship. I do things above and beyond for him and he does the same for me. 2) Yes, you must have forgot, the GDL-82 installation tool is available to anyone. https://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=12839 And Garmin even has posted videos on how to use it. 1
Mcstealth Posted September 23, 2018 Report Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/18/2018 at 8:42 AM, LANCECASPER said: On this airplane, if I already owned it . . . since it already has an enroute and non-precision approach GPS (Apollo GX50) and a capable autopilot (STEC 30). I would take the simple route first and get ads-b out taken care of. If you did a GDL82 you could leave the existing transponder. You would just need an ipad and a portable ads-b in device. That would set you back $2000 with an A & P doing the install. If you want to spend $6000, get rid of the old transponder and put in a Garmin GTX 345 and then spend $1000 on a used Garmin 796 and mount it on the yoke. The 796 will talk to the GTX345 and display ADS-B in and synthetic vision. I would do those things and fly it . . there will be plenty of other places to spend money on a 53 year old airplane. Once you start dumping $10's of $1,000's into it, it better be the airplane of your dreams. If I didn't own this airplane but I was looking for an E model my best bet would be to find one that has the panel I already want. I'd be getting the upgrades for pennies on the dollar. Ask me how I know this . . . the airplane I have now I have spent a lot of money upgrading. I could have bought one that was the way I want for less. My justification has been that the airframe only had 600 TT on it. Live and learn . . lol Okay, got it, thank you for the detailed response. Above and beyond.
Mcstealth Posted September 23, 2018 Report Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/18/2018 at 10:17 AM, gsxrpilot said: I'm somewhat in agreement with @LANCECASPER on this. If I owned the airplane... I'd be installing an engine monitor right now. Probably a G2 ($2500) if I know I'll be selling in the future or an EDM900 ($5K) if it's my forever airplane. I would also be shopping for a used 430W ($8K) or 530W to give me better radios and a moving map GPS. I'd also be looking for a 330ES ($2K) transponder from @Alan Fox so I'd have ADSB... which would only work if you had already put in a WAAS GPS. I'd also be scouring Barnstormers for an HSI... ($500) Given enough time and patience I think $12K would get it done to an acceptable level for me. If I didn't own this airplane... I would maybe keep looking? But maybe not. Well built E's are getting more and more difficult to find. Typically my minimums would be an Stec30 autopilot and a 430W. If you have that, you can build the rest pretty economically. This one is missing the WAAS GPS and that's about an $8K problem. Okay, thank you for only somewhat agreeing. that would have been weird. And thank you for also for your detailed response. DF
stormflyer Posted September 25, 2018 Report Posted September 25, 2018 Kevin's Mooney sold in July 2018 1
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