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kpaul
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Here are the new cams installed on my seats, courtesy of David's @Sabremech machining skills.

Sabremech
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Much less of a gray area than making the part a two piece assembly with screws. My part is identical except for the knurling. I don't believe I'd have a problem presenting my part to the FAA as owner

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I'm looking to have a batch of these made. I should have pricing available late Monday.  David

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Chris from PA Enthusiast

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David, how do they attach to the seat? It appears there is a set screw but I don't see a similar set screw on mine. I've got a '65 C and I assume all these vintage planes have the same seats

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1 hour ago, Chris from PA said:

David, how do they attach to the seat? It appears there is a set screw but I don't see a similar set screw on mine. I've got a '65 C and I assume all these vintage planes have the same seats

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Mine has a roll pin that’s driven through the seat cam and bar. 

 

carusoam Grand Master

carusoam

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Mooney must have liked roll pins on handles in 65... the interior door handle is held on the same way...  threads for a set screw or something like that in aluminum parts wouldn’t last long enough...

PP thoughts only, my old C was a ‘65...

Best regards,

-a-

yvesg Mentor

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OK folks, I checked and my Mooney is the same as all the others... it has 2 cams per seat. 

David, mines are not in that bad a shape that I would need new ones at this point. Thanks a lot for the offer.

Yves

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xcrmckenna

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I checked mine today and I only have one that is broken. Any chance there are others that don’t need a full set? We could go in 1/4’s:)


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Gone Grand Master

Gone

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13 minutes ago, xcrmckenna said:

I checked mine today and I only have one that is broken. Any chance there are others that don’t need a full set? We could go in 1/4’s:)


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Bucking for a position on the Board of the CB club?

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Bucking for a position on the Board of the CB club?

Maybe, I’m all for being cheap if it doesn’t effect safety:) but $400 is a lot for one cam even if you’re not in the cb club. I did go back and read the new cams have a different upright angle. So I have to find someone needing only one set.


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Sabremech

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3 hours ago, xcrmckenna said:


Maybe, I’m all for being cheap if it doesn’t effect safety:) but $400 is a lot for one cam even if you’re not in the cb club. I did go back and read the new cams have a different upright angle. So I have to find someone needing only one set.


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I’d be willing to sell them in pairs, enough for one seat. 

David

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MyNameIsNobody Grand Master

MyNameIsNobody

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I paid $200 for a whole interior including two seats and yokes...Programming a CNC is not rocket science for Pete sake.  You people have more money than sense.  I mean cents...

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xcrmckenna

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I’m looking at my cams and can’t see how I get the old ones off or how the new ones would go on. Do I have to drill them out?

carusoam Grand Master

carusoam

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Charles,  

Ask @Sabremech (alerted) for some help on that question...

Expect that there is a pin or threaded set screw in there holding things together...

Might need an iPhone or something to get a good look at it...

Best regards,

-a-

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Gone Grand Master

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I want to thank David @Sabremech for doing this.  I realize that the price of a complete set of these may be more than some are willing to pay, and that aluminum billets milled to these specifications may only cost a fraction of what I am paying, but it is worth the extra to allow him the time and personal cost to make it right the first time. 

You folks all know that outspoken and cantankerous forthright and knowledgeable (redacted to reduce discord) guru @M20Doc we have up here in Canada who looks after Mooneys.   

Same deal.

I recognize competence and like the work they do for me and my little cheapskate E model Mooney.  As my friend up here has already quoted once:  "The Bitterness of Poor Quality remains Long after the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten."

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I’m neither outspoken nor cantankerous.  I try to write what should be obvious, in a non offending way.

Clarence

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Sabremech

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7 hours ago, MyNameIsNobody said:

$400?  What is aluminum going for these days?  CB says NOPE.

How about you remove one of your seat cams and take it to a local machine shop and get a quote to have them made? Let me know what you get for a quote and if they’re less than I can get mine made for, I’ll buy them from you. 

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HRM Grand Master

HRM

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On 5/2/2018 at 7:10 PM, Sabremech said:

Seat cam sets ready to ship. I have a set for Ned and one extra set if anyone needs them.

Would you share the CAD for it? I have access to a CNC machine that could make this.

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2 hours ago, HRM said:

Would you share the CAD for it? I have access to a CNC machine that could make this.

Hi HRM,

Since I paid for the CAD file, I don’t think I’ll be sharing for free. 

Thanks

HRM Grand Master

HRM

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42 minutes ago, Sabremech said:

Hi HRM,

Since I paid for the CAD file, I don’t think I’ll be sharing for free. 

Thanks

I understand.

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MyNameIsNobody Grand Master

MyNameIsNobody

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5 hours ago, Sabremech said:

How about you remove one of your seat cams and take it to a local machine shop and get a quote to have them made? Let me know what you get for a quote and if they’re less than I can get mine made for, I’ll buy them from you. 

How about I just find another couple of seats (if and when I need them) and remove and reinstall?  You are a business.  You provide a service.  That you make a profit and can price how you want is obvious.  As a potential customer I also have the right to say: NOPE

I can buy a machined functional firearm for less than that.  I bought custom panel cut outs with N number for less than that. ;)

 

N601RX Grand Master

N601RX

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3 hours ago, MyNameIsNobody said:

 

I can buy a machined functional firearm for less than that.  I bought custom panel cut outs with N number for less than that. ;)

 

I’ve been machining my own from forging like this one. No paperwork or FFL transfer required!

https://onlylongrange.com/forged-0-223-lower-receiver/

https://www.deltateamtactical.com/Cerro-Forge-Ar-15-7075-T6-Aircraft-Aluminum-0-Forging-Upper-Receiver-Highest-Quality-QTY-Pricing-Avail_p_6508.html

 

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