Godfather Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Over the past year I've noticed some really good deals on twin barons up for sale because the owner is moving up the chain. These are open pocket book mx planes that have flown a good number of hours lately. I have to admit a draw to some of these planes just to try for a few years...especially with the lower cost of fuel right now. Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Absolutely, but my wife has done a great job keeping me in check.... A potential bill of $400+ at every fill up has done a good job keeping it real as well. I have a photocopy of a friends fuel receipt from his BE55 hanging on my desk to remind me how painful it can be when I start day dreaming again about twins. When I win the lottery, I'll skip that line and jump straight into the TBM family... Brian 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigers2007 Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 So many people are giving away twins. I've heard anecdotes on how certain folks buy them, pull the motors, and gut the avionics and make a nice little profit. No way I would want to double the burden on my checking account. Never. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 (edited) One of my favorite MSers gone twin, an NJMPer... got a pair of IO550s with that Presidential Beach. I am a big fan of the IO550. If one is good than two must be better. I would need to win the lotto two more times... Since twins come with baggage, And somebody demonstrating twice the power kept on the centerline can be equally good, bolted two engines together... see the eight cylinder Piper for that... I would start looking to go turbine if I got the need, the need for excessive speed! Turbine Mooney or TBM We had an MS lawyer, similar to Ken with the need to acquire planes often. The Lawyer went twin Mooney... aka Aero Commander / Shrike / Bob Hoover's ride... Best regards, -a- Edited April 2, 2017 by carusoam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 For some reason twins seem to be 3 times the maintenance cost, then the added fuel cost just isn't worth it for me. Had the chance to buy a C-310 a few years back that was just annualed but the props had roughly 250 hrs left (AD), typical older panel, could have picked it up 15k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantosDumont Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 There's a Baron in my hangar whose owner passed away a couple month ago. Someone's probably going to get a good deal on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbridges Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 I would love to have one, but I couldn't comfortably afford one. I'd go baron 58 if I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooneymite Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 My wife and I rode in an airconditioned Baron in the heat of the Atlanta summer once. Pretty convincing sales tool..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 I've ridden right seat in a C414 with Ram engines, and a King Air 200. Acceleration and climb rates were dramatic, but so is fuel burn and maintenance (the real reasons twins are cheap to buy, and seen less and less). If I had the money AND the need . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLRDMD Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 14 hours ago, RLCarter said: For some reason twins seem to be 3 times the maintenance cost, then the added fuel cost just isn't worth it for me. Total cost to own and fly a twin has run about 30% more than a comparable single, in my experience owning ten singles and four twins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfather Posted April 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 25 minutes ago, KLRDMD said: Total cost to own and fly a twin has run about 30% more than a comparable single, in my experience owning ten singles and four twins. I've always heard 2.5x the cost to run a twin. However, a lot of the fixed expenses would be similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert C. Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 No one mentions the DA-62!? Modern, runs on Jet-A, about 8gph per side as I recall, a little faster than the Ovation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowflyin Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 I've in the midst of twin fever. I've been looking at twin Comanche s for a week. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevelWing Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 The cost of fuel and maintenance is enough to keep me away for the time being. Add to that the insurance costs if you're a low time multi-engine pilot and the need to constantly fly to maintain proficiency in a twin for safety reasons. I think a small bush plane is next for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKlott Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 There are lots of twin Comanches listed these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotarPilot Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 One of the most appealing twins for me is the Cessna SkyMaster. I was first introduced to this beauty when Danny Glover flew one in Bat 21. I've read quite about them since then. Very cool concept but with it's own set of unique problems that other twins don't have, like rear engine running hot but then you don't have the issue of asymmetrical thrust if one engine quits. As with everything in aviation there are compromises. To answer the question, the urge yes, the financial means, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20kflyer99 Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 I've in the midst of twin fever. I've been looking at twin Comanche s for a week. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Do a weight and balance before giving any serious thought to a particular plane. I went as far as a prebuy on a turbo twinky and the plane wasn't capable of legally flying two people up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybrd Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 I have a 201 Mooney and a Turbo Twin Comanche. Both are great planes and fairly economical. I can cruise the TC at 7.5 gph per engine and it flies great. Just got back from flying over Santa Barbara area from Santa Maria in the TC and it was great. I was burning about 15gph both engines (7.5 per side) . What a view flying over the ocean and harbor looking down on the boats and sites. Yes a Twin Comanche is a good twin to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takair Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Skybrd said: I have a 201 Mooney and a Turbo Twin Comanche. Both are great planes and fairly economical. I can cruise the TC at 7.5 gph per engine and it flies great. Just got back from flying over Santa Barbara area from Santa Maria in the TC and it was great. I was burning about 15gph both engines (7.5 per side) . What a view flying over the ocean and harbor looking down on the boats and sites. Yes a Twin Comanche is a good twin to get. How do you decide which one to fly? What is the TAS on the TC when at 15gph? How is it for room compared to 201? I would personally love a Baron if I could feed it. I got close enough to buying one. A few years ago that my wife actually came to look at it (THAT is a big deal). We sat in the front and she decided that she didn't feel like there was any more room than our little E! That was the end of that! Anyway....I really couldn't afford to fly it......but 15gph...that is something... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I'd love a turbo twin with fiki. Any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsengle Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I do enjoy any time I pass a twin going faster in the Ovation, and knowing how little fuel I'm burning comparatively.... Most twins aren't that much faster than our long bodies....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Long Bodies have held their value compared to twins. GS has the logic! Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevelWing Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, gsengle said: I do enjoy any time I pass a twin going faster in the Ovation, and knowing how little fuel I'm burning comparatively.... Most twins aren't that much faster than our long bodies.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Living in the west, having the extra engine would help when flying over the mountains. However, seeing as how I don't want the added costs associated with a twin, I plan accordingly when flying in the mountains taking into account daylight (I never fly in mountains at night that I'm unfamiliar with), density altitude, etc. Of course my little C isn't turbo'd but I still get by just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 18 minutes ago, gsengle said: I do enjoy any time I pass a twin going faster in the Ovation, and knowing how little fuel I'm burning comparatively.... Most twins aren't that much faster than our long bodies.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk But it's not about the speed, it's about what you can carry....don't think you're shoving this into an Ovation or Acclaim or most any other piston single....just sayin... http://www.csobeech.com/images/B55-Load.jpg Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I like the looks of the P2006T. Fuel burn is close to a short body Mooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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