kevinw Posted May 4, 2016 Report Posted May 4, 2016 I read about these in the most recent issue of The Mooney Flyer. Flush panel mounts for an iPad or iPhone. I like that it uses the ships power and audio system but one drawback I see is using it for displaying approach plates. I like to have those right in front of me. http://www.guardianavionics.com/. Quote
gsengle Posted May 4, 2016 Report Posted May 4, 2016 And what happens when Apple changes the sizes... Don't like building a 2 year device into a 20 year panel Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
TWinter Posted May 4, 2016 Report Posted May 4, 2016 Industrial Velcro- ... Ipad Air is feather weight. CB technique. Lowes $5 dollar vs. Price: $199.00 -Tom 5 Quote
Piloto Posted May 5, 2016 Report Posted May 5, 2016 The problem with this concept is panel space. None of the iPad provides COM/ILS capability neither A/P/OBS interface capability. And these equipment has to stay in the panel so the panel space is limited or none. A cell phone on the panel would be too far to read the text, specially in turbulence. On the yoke however is much easier to read and use the touch screen. José 1 Quote
Godfather Posted May 5, 2016 Report Posted May 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Piloto said: The problem with this concept is panel space. None of the iPad provides COM/ILS capability neither A/P/OBS interface capability. And these equipment has to stay in the panel so the panel space is limited or None. This is the main problem, especially in a Mooney with tight panel space. The iPad Pro 13 in is huge...not many panels have room for something like that. Quote
carusoam Posted May 5, 2016 Report Posted May 5, 2016 The O1 has the real estate for it. But it is pretty far away... Consider pulling it out and using it kneeboard style during the approach. The iPhone 5 has been replaced with the same physical shape called the 6SE. All the power of the new version 6 phone, but same shape as before. Pilots must not be the only people using them to have this challenge. Overall it looks like a good place for old Iproducts to live out their usefull life. I can picture my old iPhone connected wirelessly to an AHARS giving attitude info to the co pilot. Weather and traffic and nearest airport within gliding distance on the app. Happy uncertified stuff... Just thinking out loud... Best regards, -a- Quote
Godfather Posted May 5, 2016 Report Posted May 5, 2016 38 minutes ago, carusoam said: The O1 has the real estate for it. But it is pretty far away... I'm curious if the mini panel mount would fit in the radio stack. Normal width of a garmin gps/nav/com is 6.25 inches. The mini mount is 6.293 inches...probably the same as the garmin mounted in the install rack. Quote
carusoam Posted May 5, 2016 Report Posted May 5, 2016 GF, I think this idea hasn't really been brought to fruition yet. What does a Garmin MFD cost in comparison. It is certified, but it's best use is advisory. Charts, weather, traffic. It resides next to the radio stack. Current thoughts... What would be nice... GTN750 in the stack with traffic, weather, storm scope on the moving map. Audio panel and transponder remoted to the back shelf (WnB + panel space) JPI 900 or 930 replacing many gauges up front with improved digital FL in the wings. Leaving space for a 6SE...? Ipads everywhere else... Mini, standard or grande! Would need to check your requirements for certified back-ups. The iPhones and iPads won't do for that. Dynon for that(?). fun stuff is coming... Best regards, -a- Quote
Marauder Posted May 5, 2016 Report Posted May 5, 2016 I think the iPad would be tough to work with in a Gizmo mount unless it was mounted right in front of you. I have tried all kinds of mounts and both the Mini and Air to see what works. The yoke mounted Mini is the only one that feel right for me. I know Stinky Pants has a full size iPad on a yoke mount on the co-pilot side and he seems to like it. I think it is a matter of whether or not you can see and access it in flight. One of the challenges I have been dealing with is the traffic & approach plates on the same device at the same time. The airspace around me is pretty busy and on VFR days when I am under the hood practicing, I like to have the approach plate up on the iPad but I don't like losing the traffic awareness. So either I run Garmin Pilot in split screen (which makes the approach plate really small), use second device (I have played around with a Nexus 7 running fltpln Go) or use the approach plates on the Aspen MFD. Once I get ADS-B up on the Aspens, staying with the plates on the iPad is the easiest to do. Otherwise you will see me looking at my plates like this: 2 Quote
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