Jim Peace Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 Having a starter issue popping up more than desired. What is the latest info on the best starter to use. I see Sky Tech in other (older) threads but no part numbers. Is there an advantage to not going light weight? Thank you in advance. Aslo I do not know what is currently on the plane. I am 2000 miles from it and the log entry from only 2 and a half years ago says replaced starter. enclosing a picture of what is currently on the plane if anyone can recognize it?
Raptor05121 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 That looks somewhat stock-ish. AFAIK, there is no reason NOT to get a SkyTech. They are lighter on the nose and supposedly have a stronger start.
Jim Peace Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Posted April 25, 2016 45 minutes ago, Raptor05121 said: That looks somewhat stock-ish. AFAIK, there is no reason NOT to get a SkyTech. They are lighter on the nose and supposedly have a stronger start. Is there a specific part number to look for? How long should a new Sky Tech last?
ArtVandelay Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 45 minutes ago, Raptor05121 said: That looks somewhat stock-ish. AFAIK, there is no reason NOT to get a SkyTech. They are lighter on the nose and supposedly have a stronger start. Is there a specific part number to look for? How long should a new Sky Tech last? I just had a Skytech installed 149-NL, the 149 is the number of teeth on the ring, you need to count the teeth to be sure. I had a light weight starter anyway so no W&B changes.
ArtVandelay Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 I tried the carb cleaner, dry silicon lub thing, it was a short term fix. I had problems with hot starts, the bendix would stick when hot. I tried the stabbing of the starter switch a few times but that didn't work, finally after almost being stranded I replaced it.
Guest Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 If it's a sticking Bendix drive, you can remove the starter and replace the drive for a little over 100.00 for the part. An EBB 75 I think but best to check the starter break down to be sure. Clarence
Yetti Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 Looks like the original prestolite starter. You can also get a new bendix for $20 at NAPA. You have to remove the Alternator to get to the other two nuts, so you might as well spend the money on a replacement, because it is kind of a pain to keep fixing. I went B&C because there seems to be several threads on the skytec failing at a rate more than acceptable. Supposedly the B&C has bearing and the Skytec has bushings. You will get about a gallon of gas back in useful weight.
Jim Peace Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Yetti said: I went B&C because there seems to be several threads on the skytec failing at a rate more than acceptable. Supposedly the B&C has bearing and the Skytec has bushings. Yeah I was reading about the B&C as well. I was all set to get the sky tech now I am debating between that and B&C
Jim Peace Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Posted April 25, 2016 Thank you everyone for the assistance.... I don't want a short term fix so I will go with a new one. dispatch reliability is important to me as I have crossed the country three times now in 12 months. Do the new sky tech or B&C starters require 50 hour mx like the older ones? Are they mx free?
ArtVandelay Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 Ive seen a couple of threads, including at least 1 where they fixed a year after the warranty expired, given their popularity not sure how much that says about the quality. You'll find lots of threads on Garmin failures also.
Jim Peace Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Posted April 25, 2016 48 minutes ago, teejayevans said: Ive seen a couple of threads, including at least 1 where they fixed a year after the warranty expired, given their popularity not sure how much that says about the quality. You speaking of Sky tech or B&C?
Yetti Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 B&C has a 2000 hour engine inspection/ send in and have them take a look at it.
ArtVandelay Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 48 minutes ago, teejayevans said: Ive seen a couple of threads, including at least 1 where they fixed a year after the warranty expired, given their popularity not sure how much that says about the quality. You speaking of Sky tech or B&C? Sky Tec They had a problem a while back, they were design to break on backfire so not to damage the flywheel, they change this.
Marauder Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 48 minutes ago, teejayevans said: Ive seen a couple of threads, including at least 1 where they fixed a year after the warranty expired, given their popularity not sure how much that says about the quality. You speaking of Sky tech or B&C? Sky Tec They had a problem a while back, they were design to break on backfire so not to damage the flywheel, they change this. No more worries, Hartzell bought them. http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2016/April/05/Hartzell-acquires-Sky-Tec-starters-and-solenoids
Jim Peace Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Posted April 25, 2016 I will probably go with B&C and report back in a few weeks after it is done......
Jim Peace Posted April 28, 2016 Author Report Posted April 28, 2016 Now I am thinking of going with Sky Tech.... There is the 149NL and the 149 XLT..... Has anyone ever had a pin sheer on the 149NL ? I don't want to be stranded someplace other than home........ The 149XLT appears to not have a pin...... sometimes I wish there were no choices......
ArtVandelay Posted April 28, 2016 Report Posted April 28, 2016 FYI, the shear pin is field replaceable, you can buy one and save it in your tool bag. Also i read somewhere the shear pin saves the starter, otherwise something has to give (engine or starter), the XLT doesnt have shear pin but is designed to fail first.
Guest Posted April 28, 2016 Report Posted April 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Jim Peace said: Now I am thinking of going with Sky Tech.... There is the 149NL and the 149 XLT..... Has anyone ever had a pin sheer on the 149NL ? I don't want to be stranded someplace other than home........ The 149XLT appears to not have a pin...... sometimes I wish there were no choices...... The 149 has spare pin bonded inside the mounting base, I've never had to replace one in all the years I've installed them. A very reliable product. Clarence
N201MKTurbo Posted April 28, 2016 Report Posted April 28, 2016 I had a 149NL fail once. It became electrically open inside. Skytec said I had to buy a new one and they would look at mine and if it was their problem they would refund what I paid for the new starter. I got the replacement the next day. I put mine in the box, they sent along the return shipping label and I sent it off. Two days later it was all credited back to my card. I think it was out of warrantee too. A great company!
Jim Peace Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Posted April 29, 2016 22 hours ago, teejayevans said: FYI, the shear pin is field replaceable, you can buy one and save it in your tool bag. I was thinking the same thing
bonal Posted April 29, 2016 Report Posted April 29, 2016 I'll Spare the details my experience with Sky Tech was very good
Jim Peace Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Posted May 11, 2016 Job almost done. Just need a longer cable. 1
jamesm Posted May 12, 2016 Report Posted May 12, 2016 If I recall correctly I swapped the battery ground cable with the cable going to the starter solenoid there was length to make it to the starter. James '67C
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