Explain these gauges,, please Help

[mpg]

What is the box 1.5X4" under the ADF indicator?

Is the indicator to the left of the radio a self contained nav reciever with VOR indicator?

Is the indicator to the left of the Xponder and ADF radio an ILS / GS indicator?

Do you think that audio panel has a 3 light marker beacon receiver?

Edited January 8, 2016 by mpg

[carusoam]

Caution: Tough interpretation of a single picture follows,

Low definition picture of a completely reworked non-original panel?

The one stand-out is the boat anchor NavCom in the center.  Check with the seller for what is there.

Really Old radios may not have the frequency separation that is required to have all the channels needed for flying to other airports.  Many old radios were relegated to junk status post y2k....

How do you intend to use this plane?

Be ready for the next shoe to drop if you say something like 'taking my family on long X-country flights'

Taking on ownership like this one would really benefit from getting to know the current owner.  That panel looks nicely organized on the surface.  The PPI on this may be a huge project verifying the AW of each non-factory installed device that has been installed. 

Without contact with the owner, you may find that the small surprises may be overwhelming to your bank account.

Best regards,

-a-

[Marauder]

The picture is real grainy. The indicator to the left of the stack looks like a Narco standalone Nav radio with indicator. Not sure if they have an ILS receiver. Most of the ones I have seen didn't.

I have no clue on the smaller box on the right under the ADF head.

The audio panel looks like it is an older Narco with the marker beacon. The real concern I see is I think that big radio in the middle is an old Narco 360 channel radio. I think those were banned in 1997 or so.

This is a Barnstormer's picture. No text description given?

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[Glenn]

The item to the left of the stack looks like a Narco Nav11.  This was a self-contained VOR/Loc receiver.  The center stack looks to be all Narco.  The top unit a Mk12 Nav/Comm (good luck finding tubes), and below it a Comm120. Finally an AT150 transponder.

This actually is a lot like the stack that I found in my M20F when I bought it in 1984.

Edited January 8, 2016 by Glenn

[smwash02]

Barnstormer's Link

"Full Sized" image isn't much better.

[kmyfm20s]

Im going to go out on a limb and say it is a frequency selector. Looks like press buttons for up and down. It might be for the glide slope for the ILS?

[orionflt]

A model mooney with a narco stack in the center and a terra radio on the copilots side next to the stack. fuel gauges above stack.

 

Brian

[Andy95W]

I'm 90% sure it's an old Terra com radio.

Big coffee grinder radio no longer legal for transmitting as noted above.

Narco NAV probably has glide slope and internal marker beacon receiver.

At the end of the day, you'd have:

-2 com radios (at least one of which you couldn't transmit on),

-2 NAV radios (which, if they still work, the FAA is decommissioning VORs daily)

-a marker beacon receiver ( that has practically zero usefulness) and an

-ADF (boat anchor) plus

-really ugly yokes.

What a great deal!

[KSMooniac]

It is a panel that flew past obsolete a couple of decades ago I'm afraid.  I wouldn't bet on any of it functioning if you're really interested in this project, so add some newer avionics to the budget if you're making calculations.  It is cheap enough to generate some interest and might make a fine flying airplane with a lot of sweat equity and some scrounging on the used market.  Just realize it will likely never be worth more than 25-30K as a flying airplane no matter what is in the panel with the current state of the market.  30K will buy a more desirable C model easily.

[kmyfm20s]

[carusoam]

The plastic gears that drive the narco frequency display would become brittle with age and break.  Keeping track of the actual frequency was similar to counting cards and performing statistics calculations while flying.

Thank you, to SMWash.  That improved photo is just enough to identify most of what is on the surface.

 

Still bitter with Narco after all these years,

-a-

[mpg]

thanks to all.

a better pic,, i woudnt have needed to ask.

it is a 1957 m20 for 8000$ on barnstormers.

the audio panal and xponder could stay,, and a kx155 and indicator added.

1400 mi drive to see it,,,  1000mi flight back, aint gonna do it.

if it was here at pwt,,  i would buy it now!

 

 

[mpg]

i had confusion about the bad pics here.

i thought xxx.XX would mean 360ch radios... really old, not usable, maybe not legal!

but that Tarra,,, has xxx.XX but says 720?....

[Marauder]

i had confusion about the bad pics here.

i thought xxx.XX would mean 360ch radios... really old, not usable, maybe not legal!

but that Tarra,,, has xxx.XX but says 720?....

The VHF com radios went from 90 channel to 360 channel to 720 and then when the 25 MHz was introduced, 760 channels.

With a 720 radio you will miss out on some freqs but can function for the most part. My guess is the guy decided to keep the 360 because he was still flying to airports that used it but then instead of pulling it and putting in a 720 or 760, just added it to his panel.

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