Will W Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 On the positive side the company is getting the insured value quicker than the sale. No need to worry about warranty claims.José I doubt it. The plane was probably insures for less than new value. They usually are since it immediately looses value as it flies off the assembly line. Quote
FBCK Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Video http://www.theledger.com/article/20150420/NEWS/150429987 1 Quote
kmyfm20s Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Well He look fine in the video, getting his own footage. Wow! Quote
ArtVandelay Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Piloto, in response to your earlier comment, I doubt he chopped the power back to idle if he was conducting a normal approach. That turns the Acclaim into a rock if the gear and flaps are down. Richard certainly knew that; he probably has as much Acclaim time as anyone. But we're all speculating at this point. He crashed only about a mile from the airport, on what looks to be final for 23 or 27. Quote
Shadrach Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 I wonder if he accidentally he ran it dry on one tank and didn't get it restarted in time? Quote
Hank Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 I wonder if he accidentally he ran it dry on one tank and didn't get it restarted in time? In forty minutes? He was on the ground in Stuart for about two hours after a two hour flight. Quote
FloridaMan Posted April 21, 2015 Author Report Posted April 21, 2015 You hear him here around the 18:30 mark saying he's going break off to the north and wait out the weather. The last flightaware location is about a minute from then. It sounds like his voice saying "unable 3000 in the soup" shortly after the 20:00 mark and, if that's him, he's expressing concern over the other pilots coming in with the weather as it was. I listened to the tower transmissions around the same time and within a minute the winds went from 10kts to 15G21. http://archive-server.liveatc.net/klal/KLAL-App-Dep-Apr-20-2015-1800Z.mp3 Quote
chrisk Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Video http://www.theledger.com/article/20150420/NEWS/150429987 Glad to see Richard is ok and videoing his own crash site. Quote
Joe Zuffoletto Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Whatever it was, it wasn't the outcome he wanted. I'm just so glad he survived. Quote
ryoder Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Could be wind sheer right? The weather was horrible and gusty. Quote
Jeff_S Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 On the video I saw, he's talking about how the engine quit and he tried boost pump and everything. I'm sure we'll get a full accounting from Richard at some point, but this sounds like some sort of infant mortality problem with the engine. It was very low-time, after all, and it's within the first 100 hours of a new engine that most problems appear. Quote
rbridges Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 On the video I saw, he's talking about how the engine quit and he tried boost pump and everything. I'm sure we'll get a full accounting from Richard at some point, but this sounds like some sort of infant mortality problem with the engine. It was very low-time, after all, and it's within the first 100 hours of a new engine that most problems appear. that makes sense. Unfortunately, the engine picked one of the worst times to quit. Quote
Marauder Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 On the positive side the company is getting the insured value quicker than the sale. No need to worry about warranty claims. José I doubt it. The plane was probably insures for less than new value. They usually are since it immediately looses value as it flies off the assembly line. It's not unusual for some manufacturers to self insure or limit it to liability only. So, there is a chance this plane wasn't covered by a "hull" insurance. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
chrisk Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 I'm really thankful that Richard is ok. I met him at the last Mooney summit. I can't wait to hear the stories at the next Mooney Summit. I'm sure he will get a question about landing gear up or not. If it were me, I'd probably have the gear up to get the longest glide, then forget all about it in the last few feet. I also keep wondering how this will effect Mooney. It's huge that Richard was able to walk away from the crash, and a real testament to how our planes are built. On the other hand a BRS parachute would be a really nice option. Quote
Parker_Woodruff Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Two weekends ago, this plane had 9 hours on it. Quote
fantom Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 If it happens to guys like Richard and Mike Elliott, it can happen to anyone! I'm gonna rethink my new Acclaim order Fly safe out there..... Quote
DrBill Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 My A&P and I spent several hours with Richard last fall ar KSSI.. My A&P used to be a Cessna dealer and delivered many planes.... He says a common problem in 1st 100 hrs is loose fuel fittings. He had several dead stick landings, some over 20 hrs of tach time, only to find a severly loose fitting somewhere. The video of him filming the plane while the FD arrive shows how cool he is under pressure. Bill Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 If it happens to guys like Richard and Mike Elliott, it can happen to anyone! I'm gonna rethink my new Acclaim order Fly safe out there..... Yes, A machine failure and off airport landing can happen to anyone. The difference between outcomes has a tremendous amount to do with the reaction the pilot in command has to the emergency. His/Her decision making. Getting the plane down at the slowest speed. Not stalling. Flying the plane until it is down. In my book, great job. I just watched a video showing semi after semi plowing into the backs of other semi's on a limited visibility snowstorm. Accidents? Yes. Decisionmaking opportunities to prevent? Definitely? Sometimes Fate is the Hunter... Quote
Amelia Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah, cancel MY Acclaim order, too. Better the 1980 devil I know. (Oh, and there's the little matter of the purchase price, maintenance, insurance, property tax, and fuel cost....unless the Mooney Fairy has left a shiny set of keys under my pillow.) 1 Quote
Bob_Belville Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Amelia, Nancy and I spent time with Richard (and Dr. Bill, Jeff Schlueter) @ the KSSI AOPA fly in when our Ambassador tent was beside an Orange Mooney he was selling/brokering. And he was a presenter for Mike @ Mooney Summit in Panama City Beach. IMO, what Richard didn't need was another flying story! But I'd fly with him any time! (I've walked away from a "crash" and another time had to dead stick my first Mooney that "swallowed" an exhaust valve. The latter happily at an airport that was within gliding range. Fly enough and you'll probably find out how you measure up under pressure. 1 Quote
Marauder Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 If it happens to guys like Richard and Mike Elliott, it can happen to anyone! I'm gonna rethink my new Acclaim order Fly safe out there..... I thought you were buying an Accord?! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Marauder Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah, cancel MY Acclaim order, too. Better the 1980 devil I know. (Oh, and there's the little matter of the purchase price, maintenance, insurance, property tax, and fuel cost....unless the Mooney Fairy has left a shiny set of keys under my pillow.) I agree. Better owning a plane that you know what is broke on it rather than one that you don't. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Marauder Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Amelia, Nancy and I spent time with Richard (and Dr. Bill, Jeff Schlueter) @ the KSSI AOPA fly in when our Ambassador tent was beside an Orange Mooney he was selling/brokering. And he was a presenter for Mike @ Mooney Summit in Panama City Beach. IMO, what Richard didn't need was another flying story! But I'd fly with him any time! (I've walked away from a "crash" and another time had to dead stick my first Mooney that "swallowed" an exhaust valve. The latter happily at an airport that was within gliding range. Fly enough and you'll probably find out how you measure up under pressure. An instructor told me early in my flying experience that the first thing you smell in the cockpit during an emergency is the smell of raw adrenaline. I got to know that smell. What he failed to mention was the second smell you will experience. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 3 Quote
PTK Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 An instructor told me early in my flying experience that the first thing you smell in the cockpit during an emergency is the smell of raw adrenaline. I got to know that smell. What he failed to mention was the second smell you will experience. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Minor detail. It's taste not smell. I've tasted it! Just a different sense!! Quote
rbridges Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah, cancel MY Acclaim order, too. I'll be the bigger man. If anybody has a non-refundable Acclaim purchase, I will trade you my trusted C model. Quote
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