OP ED-"Little Timmy Wants to Know Why Nobody Likes Airplanes Anymore?

[flyboy0681]

No I am with you ... Let the government choose candidates from government schools, earmark them from youth to be doctors, tell them if they love America that is what they Must be, let our tax dollars pay for their training, and they must work their entire lives for what wages the government tells them they can make ... for the good of all Americans and freedom everywhere!

 

 

I merely pointed out this fact, I didn't say whether I agreed with it or not.

 

Your reply strikes a chord because you described exactly how medical training occurs in most of those "socialist" countries.

 

Those students found to have the aptitude to become doctors are provided all of their training for free, courtesy of the state. That prevents them from coming out of medical school strapped with a few hundred thousand dollars worth of loan debt.

[AndyFromCB]

All current greedy doctors, we need to seize their homes, their cars, their assets, and distribute it to the poor. If they won't work for what the government tells them, we put them on trial for treason ....

 

Once again, you're proving your own stupidity with this diatribe. Surgery was supposed to be $30 some thousand, that hospital, doctors and patient, insurance company agreed to. It turned out to be $117,000 more due to no complications. Stupid is as stupid does, or doesn't in this case, as in read the article.

[John Pleisse]

daver328, on 22 Jan 2015 - 1:29 PM, said:

No I am with you ... Let the government choose candidates from government schools, earmark them from youth to be doctors, tell them if they love America that is what they Must be, let our tax dollars pay for their training, and they must work their entire lives for what wages the government tells them they can make ... for the good of all Americans and freedom everywhere!

 

 

Good points...this is what they do in Germany and Sweden. Future doctors, separated and groomed at age 11. Likewise, these countries socially engineer their working class the same way. They weed them out at 11 years old and send them to a different line of schooling. Nothing like knowing you are relegated to bricklaying and cosmetology for the rest of your life, even though you may be ADD, dyslexic or a late bloomer. The best heart surgeon in my county was just that.

 

Common Core....socialized, federal, top down-education.......here it comes.

[AndyFromCB]

Good points...this is what they do in Germany and Sweden. Future doctors, eparated and groomed at age 11. Likewise, these countries engineer their working class the same way. They weed them out at 11 years old. Nothing like knowing you are relegated to bricklaying and cosmetology for the rest of your life, even though you may be ADD, dyslexic or a late bloomer. The best heart surgeon in my county was just that.

 

Common Core.......here it comes.

 

An 99% of the time, they are right. And they do have free night school for late bloomers. So 1% is an acceptable loss to me. Still much better than our incarceration rate. I'm sure he'd make a fine brick layer too…Guy who build my outdoor kitchen from brick was an attorney, well, an ex-attorney...

[jkhirsch]

Let us not forget that the beauty of our country is our ability to think freely and express our opinions in any venue we see fit.

 

This thread right here is the beautiful essence of the origin of our country.

 

Hopefully everyone can remember that it's ok and even expected to have different opinions and when it's time to eat, pass me the queso.

[jkhirsch]

Also, this would be a lot more fun in the chatroom

[flyboy0681]

Also, this would be a lot more fun in the chatroom

 

 

True dat

[John Pleisse]

Let us not forget that the beauty of our country is our ability to think freely and express our opinions in any venue we see fit.

 

This thread right here is the beautiful essence of the origin of our country.

 

Hopefully everyone can remember that it's ok and even expected to have different opinions and when it's time to eat, pass me the queso.

 

 

And in Sweden, it is now illegal to chat online about Muslim immigration.......a federal crime.

[John Pleisse]

An 99% of the time, they are right. And they do have free night school for late bloomers. So 1% is an acceptable loss to me. Still much better than our incarceration rate. I'm sure he'd make a fine brick layer too…Guy who build my outdoor kitchen from brick was an attorney, well, an ex-attorney...

 

Totally disagree. 1%? ....Reference it. What you can't reference are the success stories we have here in America. Only our elite Ivy League schools are capable of this and can be wrong, I promise you, by more than a single percent.

[AndyFromCB]

Totally disagree. 1%? ....Reference it. What you can't reference are the success stories we have here in America. Only our elite Ivy League schools are capable of this and can be wrong, I promise you, by more than a single percent.

What success stories? Please don't bring up Bill Gates. You live in fantasy world of upward mobility…If you're born poor and stupid, you're most likely will remain poor and stupid, if you're born rich, you're almost guaranteed to be richer. As simple as that. Bill Gates would have been a millionaire without ever lifting a finger, because his father already was.

 

And if you surgeon friend was actually a late bloomer due to dyslexia, he only has them liberal teachers and Ivy League educated psychologists to thank for for his advancement. You know, socialism...

[jkhirsch]

Upward mobility does exist, you could argue that it doesn't, but you would be wrong.

 

NOW, I would gladly support your point that upward mobility in America is vastly oversold, approaching religion status.

 

I don't believe it's some conspiracy to give middle class people hope, but America has always been a large oligarchy, the dreams of upward mobility "stimulate the masses and create a productive society."

[AndyFromCB]

Upward mobility does exist, you could argue that it doesn't, but you would be wrong.

 

NOW, I would gladly support your point that upward mobility in America is vastly oversold, approaching religion status.

 

I don't believe it's some conspiracy to give middle class people hope, but America has always been a large oligarchy, the dreams of upward mobility "stimulate the masses and create a productive society."

 

There is a lot of things in America approaching religious status, as in, under normal observation clearly observed to be false, yet deeply held to be true, no matter the evidence or lack there off. 

 

Like Scott and his leadership screams. Numbers came out today from pentagon, and it appears we've been waging quite a successful campaign against ISIS under the leadership of our favorite Muslim Kenyan. Apparently the problem is for many: not enough carrier landings and mission accomplished banners.

 

If you work hard enough in American, one day you might drop dead. I highly recommend against it. Going flying, cheers;-)

[John Pleisse]

There is a lot of things in America approaching religious status,

 

 

 

Oh, there are.................

[flyboy0681]

 

 

Like Scott and his leadership screams. Numbers came out today from pentagon, and it appears we've been waging quite a successful campaign against ISIS under the leadership of our favorite Muslim Kenyan. 

 

 

Wait a minute, are you trying to say that ISIS isn't coming to my town?

 

I've always felt that there would be "lone wolf" attacks here, but not army's of ISIS, which is what some conservative news networks have been promoting.

[John Pleisse]

Wait a minute, are you trying to say that ISIS isn't coming to my town?

 

I've always felt that there would be "lone wolf" attacks here, but not army's of ISIS, which is what some conservative news networks have been promoting.

 

 

So give them half of two sovereign nations and say they are contained? Let them commit atrocities that would make Hitler a choir boy? Allow our citizens to be murdered abroad? Allow them to murder citizens of our friendly allies? Allow them to propagate terror over the internet to incite mass murder in countries around the world? Allow them to bastardize a religion, blase' liberal minded, overly diplomatic "know-it-alls" hold more dear than the faith of 90% of their own country. Sorry Mike.....go sell that crap someplace else.

[AndyFromCB]

 Let them commit atrocities that would make Hitler a choir boy? Allow our citizens to be murdered abroad? 

 

This has to be either greatest example of hyperbole or total and complete lack of education and knowledge of history. John, you're about to join my stupid list. My family lived thru Hitler and a few of them survived. Few thousand assholes running around does not equal a state hell bent on world domination with means to do so. Actually, you know what, as my great aunt, who had her ovaries removed in a concentration camp would tell you, GO FUCK YOURSELF. You joined it, I'm out.

[jkhirsch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywNYoAgLzm4

 

Take it how you will, like anything else out there.

[jkhirsch]

I didn't really want it to post the video, just the link sorry...

[flyboy0681]

My family lived thru Hitler and a few of them survived. Few thousand assholes running around does not equal a state hell bent on world domination with means to do so. Actually, you know what, as my great aunt, who had her ovaries removed in a concentration camp would tell you, GO FUCK YOURSELF. You joined it, I'm out.

 

 

Well, I won't use the F word, but just like your family experience, my dad's entire family was wiped out, aunts, uncles cousins and grand parents. He and his parents got out of Poland in 1938 just as things were heating up.

 

He rarely talks about it but two years ago he brought out old pictures and came across one. For the first time in my entire life (and I was 52 at the time) I saw him chocking up and break into tears. He was looking at a picture of his 8 year old first cousin and he said "what did this 8 year old ever do to deserve what he got". This from a man that didn't even shed a tear at his son's own funeral a year earlier.

 

Sorry for the digression guys.

[John Pleisse]

You know, just an observation: this administration is not known for its loyalty and support of Israel? But really, we are in this together. The Muslims want to subvert or kill all of us .... Christians and Jews alike ...

 

 

Pucker up..... Bebe is coming to town for a joint session speech....kind of like those executive orders.

[AndyFromCB]

Pucker up..... Bebe is coming to town for a joint session speech....kind of like those executive orders.

And of course, it does not bother you that a sovereign nation would have so much influence over our foreign policy. Does it. Bet you have no problems sending your tax dollars over there. Yeah, yeah, I know Isreal is needed for your second coming of the messiah and some other stupid made up shit like that. Otherwise the Christian Right wouldn't even know where to look on the map. Like I said before, ultimate marriage of the unholly warriors. FUCKING FUNDIES, on all sides, you all deserve each other. 

 

Actually, I'm willing to bet if I showed you a map with no names, you couldn't find Israeil either. They be socialists. The have universal healthcare. 

[John Pleisse]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywNYoAgLzm4

 

Take it how you will, like anything else out there.

 

 

Yes...how's that Muslim faith working out??? Impoverished, uneducated, xenophobic and radicalized to hate civilized faith, based in forgiveness of sin and helping our fellow man. And how did they arrive at this? These poor souls have been treated like animals by often wealthy governments, crack-pot monarchs and half-baked dictatorships, who rob their peoples of wealth and prosperity, leaving only themselves to blame.  An entire sub-continent of them.They have a history of this spanning 1600 years. The Moroccan's, the Berber's and the Ottoman's are welcoming themselves back. Go give them a hug.

[AndyFromCB]

 Impoverished, uneducated, xenophobic and radicalized to hate civilized faith based in forgiveness of sin and helping our fellow man. And how did they arrive at this? 

 

They spend too much time watching FOX?

[jkhirsch]

Is the Fundies some kind of spin-off of the Brady Bunch?

[John Pleisse]

They spend too much time watching FOX?

 

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