Alan Fox Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Don't we know this plane????? From Georgetown Delaware today..... Quote
RocketAviator Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Image on one of news sites shows N2000P which shows up as 11 seat aircraft owned by Beachcraft! Quote
RocketAviator Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 N200DP is the Reg... My bad. The registry shows a name for that reg. Quote
Marauder Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Alan -- when I met you and Mike last year for the first time at N57 there was another Mooney that showed up. I thought it was a Rocket. The number looks real familiar. Take a look at this FlightAware picture. Do you know him? http://flightaware.com/photos/view/991665-55ed8dadcc557d06e79428403927db1360c80d44/aircrafttype/M20P Sent using Tapatalk Quote
scottfromiowa Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 If that was your plane would you want it posted on Mooneyspace? Quote
Hank Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Lifted out by the tail, with a fork truck! Got to wonder what additional damage that caused . . . . . Quote
chrisk Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Looks like he should have been able to walk away. I'd like to know what happened. Quote
Marauder Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Looks like he should have been able to walk away. I'd like to know what happened. No evidence of prop chord damage. Engine was probably not running. Sent using Tapatalk Quote
piperpainter Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 I agree with Marauder. I really love that I took several accident investigation courses. Part of the course was finding out if an engine was running, how fast etc.....really opens your eyes to simple things! 1 Quote
MB65E Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 It's amazing how strong but thin out airplanes are. Look at the fuse tail section...there is a longeron that is angle alumnium in the same spot as all those wrinkles...Makes it look like alumnium foil. The spinner looks like it was made of the same foil. I'm sure their Ok, but the airplane will be scrapped most likely. Engine looks like it could be in good shape. I'm installing a Louder gear horn in ours! After the video surfaced and the other pictures... The airplane is in remarkable shape if they caught the wire in the air!! Don't think is was the standard "gear up". Really lucky! I've had old Barron's die on me on roll out if you land with the pumps on, not sure how how the rockets are set up. -Matt Quote
PTK Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Alan -- when I met you and Mike last year for the first time at N57 there was another Mooney that showed up. I thought it was a Rocket. The number looks real familiar. Take a look at this FlightAware picture. Do you know him? http://flightaware.com/photos/view/991665-55ed8dadcc557d06e79428403927db1360c80d44/aircrafttype/M20P Sent using Tapatalk Chris, if you're referring to that gentleman who showed up with his wife later I thought it was a red Ovation if IRC. The other one was a 231? from the DC area. I forget that gentleman' s name. 200DP is on MS as jojogunn. Has a few pics in gallery. Reg shows Joseph Grund, North Cape May, NJ. Quote
Danb Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Chris. He looks familiar to me, I have been in Kmiv and Kwwd lately and may have talked to him last months, I've been practicing between ilg. Miv. And wwd Looks like the engine was off..I'm sure our experts will have fuel exhaustion and pilot error before breakfast 1 Quote
PTK Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Looks like clipped power lines... http://www.lowereasternshorenews.com/2014/05/airplane-crash-georgetown-delaware.html May have had engine failure and landed gear up on purpose. 1 Quote
Marauder Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Chris, if you're referring to that gentleman who showed up with his wife later I thought it was a red Ovation if IRC. The other one was a 231? from the DC area. I forget that gentleman' s name. 200DP is on MS as jojogunn. Has a few pics in gallery. Reg shows Joseph Grund, North Cape May, NJ. I remember the guy and his wife from the Pittsburgh area in the red Ovation. It was either much earlier that day or another event when only Alan, Mike and I thought this guy were there. I believed it was a blue and white Rocket. Could be wrong. He left before others showed up. The 231 was Don and I have his plane on video. He came from Freeport I think. Sent using Tapatalk Quote
Marauder Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Looks like clipped power lines... http://www.lowereasternshorenews.com/2014/05/airplane-crash-georgetown-delaware.html May have had engine failure and landed gear up on purpose. He was really close to the airport. In the first photo you can see the airport perimeter fence. Not sure where the landing gear went other than he was trying to extend a glide. Sent using Tapatalk Quote
Marauder Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Chris. He looks familiar to me, I have been in Kmiv and Kwwd lately and may have talked to him last months, I've been practicing between ilg. Miv. And wwd Looks like the engine was off..I'm sure our experts will have fuel exhaustion and pilot error before breakfast He looks real familiar to me as well. Sent using Tapatalk Quote
Hank Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 If you watch this video, at the end when it's being drug out of the ditch [ ], it looks like the front gear door is visible, open flat against the ground: http://www.wmdt.com/story/25547151/faa-investigates-plane-crash-near-sussex-co-airport A 'typical' gear up won't involve power lines, just a distraction. The investigation will determine fuel and engine power. If it was a normal landing, and he was just low, at that point the throttle would be at idle, so I don't know how much chordwise damage the prop would have anyway. The wonderful reported just said that "his plane stopped working," a useless statement with zero information content if I ever heard one. The good thing is that his Mooney did what Al designed them to do, it kept the pilot safe and uninjured. He may have bruises from the seatbelts, though. In a spam can without a steel cage, this could have been really ugly. Quote
1964-M20E Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Based on his last post here, the owner/pilot is a former Navy Aviator. Looks like it was a good landing to me. Everyone apparently walked away. Jim Naval aviator, that figures he tried to catch the #3 wire. Normal landing for those guys. At first look I thought it could fly again but with the tale twisted like that I doubt it. It's good that everyone walked. 1 Quote
Nathan Peterson Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 This sure hurts my feelings… I hate to see a beautiful Mooney in this condition no matter what happened. Nate Quote
Seth Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Just gald he's not hurt. If he's still on MooneySpace, we're all glad you're okay, and once everything is settled, we'd love to hear a first hand account as to what occurred to better prepare ourselves for similar issues. Sorry about the damage, and again, glad you're okay. -Seth 8 Quote
Seth Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 Why would they lift it by the tail?!! Maybe they think it's already totalled Quote
KSMooniac Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 It is not unusual for more damage to occur during retrieval vs. the actual incident, unfortunately! Hopefully the plane can fly again... we'll see. (FWIW, I have a good tailcone and empennage that can be had cheap! ) Glad the pilot is fine, and I'll sure want to hear what happened as well... sounds like an engine and/or fuel issue. I've flown a friend's Rocket a couple of times and he had a LOT of trouble getting the CMI fuel injection system setup properly...and it would frequently die completely after landing. I suppose it could die on approach as well if going to idle and lead to a land-short scenario. Quote
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