Flaps on take-off?

[jnisley]

Some people think that their individual POH/Owner's Manual is how all airplanes should be flown.

 

Seeing is believing, right? Even in Missouri? Check this out, ye unbelievers! I prefer "As desired" myself.

My 1969 M20F POH has the same line, in some circumstances I choose "takeoff flaps" but most times I choose "as desired"

[aaronk25]

Where did you find a 100 pound girlfriend

Ha ha I went out specifically searching for the woman of my dreams that could allow for my m20J to be a good 4 person airplane. . Gosh I hope she doesn't come on here I'll be toast!

[PTK]

Ha ha I went out specifically searching for the woman of my dreams that could allow for my m20J to be a good 4 person airplane. . Gosh I hope she doesn't come on here I'll be toast!

Did you also search for an 100 pound mother-in-law to match?

Is it still a 4 person airplane if the gf decides she wants her mother to come along?

[aaronk25]

Did you also search for an 100 pound mother-in-law to match?

Is it still a 4 person airplane if the gf decides she wants her mother to come along?

Oh gosh if the mother in law thinks she's going to come then I'd have to refer to the FAA oxygen requirements for pass above 14k. It's only necessary to offer o2 to pass, not required so I'd technically be right if I made the offering at the volume of a whisper? And how high do I need to fly to put her in sleepy land?

[Bob_Belville]

Oh gosh if the mother in law thinks she's going to come then I'd have to refer to the FAA oxygen requirements for pass above 14k. It's only necessary to offer o2 to pass, not required so I'd technically be right if I made the offering at the volume of a whisper? And how high do I need to fly to put her in sleepy land?

You do know this is a public forum, right? google aaronk mother in law in a few days after the crawlers have updated... 

[pinerunner]

With that bench seat in the back you might seat three. Who has the record for most 100 lb GF's in one Mooney. Extra credit for vintage.

[flyboy]

With that bench seat in the back you might seat three. Who has the record for most 100 lb GF's in one Mooney. Extra credit for vintage.

At the same time? That would be dangerous.

[Hank]

With that bench seat in the back you might seat three. Who has the record for most 100 lb GF's in one Mooney. Extra credit for vintage.

My wife would be very upset if I had ANY gf's at all . . .

[Jamie]

Who has the record for most 100 lb GF's in one Mooney. Extra credit for vintage.

vintage? Of the girlfriend? You could probably get one or two more 80 year olds in there than 20 year olds, but... um....

[38Blackfin]

Page 12 yet??

Put me down for 'as desired'.

Oh....and LOP and 2 blade. LOL!!

Randy

[fantom]

Maybe he should have used takeoff flaps

 

[ncdmtb]

Maybe he used too much flaps.

[Super Dave]

Maybe he should have used full flaps.

[DS1980]

Or as desired.

Dang it! I said I was done. Pulled me back in. I blame peer pressure. Oh, and society.

[SkyPilot]

In the past I usually didn't use flaps on takeoff. That is the way I was checked out. But I found that the break from the runway is much cleaner when using flaps and they are 100% necessary when taking off hot and heavy unless you have a lot of runway to burn off. Landing I always use full flaps (not really huge anyways) and trim the nose very carefully. I usually fly alone and find myself quite nose heavy so an approach at 85 mph and full nose up trim results in frequent squeakers

[M016576]

Lol- I can't believe I missed this thread! I really can't believe it's 12 pages long! Classic!

[201er]

I've been away 2 weeks and this thread is still going on? I don't understand what there is to discuss!? You're supposed to and it's better to use flaps on every takeoff.

[DonMuncy]

Oh no! Here we go again!

[Hank]

I've been away 2 weeks and this thread is still going on? I don't understand what there is to discuss!? You're supposed to and it's better to use flaps on every takeoff.

Welcome back! Things are just like you left them!! Except maybe your parrots. Any new ones, freshly imported from the homeland? If they're in the cockpit and flapping on takeoff, does that help?

[BigTex]

Lord! Why am I reading this thread?

Because you don't want to miss the post that would put this tread in the ditch again (assuming it was ever out of it)!

[PMcClure]

It might be in the ditch because it didn't use flaps!

[Hank]

Or maybe it used full flaps and lost control wheelbarrowing down the runway?

(Sorry, I can't help myself!)

[scottfromiowa]

My dad told me 1. Rest your weight on your elbows and 2. The gentleman always finishes last. Those are truisms I can live with. Flaps on takeoff...not so much.

[PMcClure]

Or maybe it used full flaps and lost control wheelbarrowing down the runway?

(Sorry, I can't help myself!)

You took the bait!

 

Page 13 anyone??

[Dave Marten]

AUGH!

 

I was hoping to actually find something worth reading.

 

BTW: Just to kick things up a bit. No flap takeoffs are my normal configuration. Use 'em if you need 'em for improved takeoff performance, but nominally loaded on typical runways of 4k or longer I leave the flaps up.