jnisley Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Some people think that their individual POH/Owner's Manual is how all airplanes should be flown. Seeing is believing, right? Even in Missouri? Check this out, ye unbelievers! I prefer "As desired" myself. My 1969 M20F POH has the same line, in some circumstances I choose "takeoff flaps" but most times I choose "as desired" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronk25 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Where did you find a 100 pound girlfriend Ha ha I went out specifically searching for the woman of my dreams that could allow for my m20J to be a good 4 person airplane. . Gosh I hope she doesn't come on here I'll be toast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ha ha I went out specifically searching for the woman of my dreams that could allow for my m20J to be a good 4 person airplane. . Gosh I hope she doesn't come on here I'll be toast!Did you also search for an 100 pound mother-in-law to match? Is it still a 4 person airplane if the gf decides she wants her mother to come along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronk25 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Did you also search for an 100 pound mother-in-law to match? Is it still a 4 person airplane if the gf decides she wants her mother to come along? Oh gosh if the mother in law thinks she's going to come then I'd have to refer to the FAA oxygen requirements for pass above 14k. It's only necessary to offer o2 to pass, not required so I'd technically be right if I made the offering at the volume of a whisper? And how high do I need to fly to put her in sleepy land? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Oh gosh if the mother in law thinks she's going to come then I'd have to refer to the FAA oxygen requirements for pass above 14k. It's only necessary to offer o2 to pass, not required so I'd technically be right if I made the offering at the volume of a whisper? And how high do I need to fly to put her in sleepy land? You do know this is a public forum, right? google aaronk mother in law in a few days after the crawlers have updated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinerunner Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 With that bench seat in the back you might seat three. Who has the record for most 100 lb GF's in one Mooney. Extra credit for vintage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 With that bench seat in the back you might seat three. Who has the record for most 100 lb GF's in one Mooney. Extra credit for vintage. At the same time? That would be dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 With that bench seat in the back you might seat three. Who has the record for most 100 lb GF's in one Mooney. Extra credit for vintage. My wife would be very upset if I had ANY gf's at all . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Who has the record for most 100 lb GF's in one Mooney. Extra credit for vintage. vintage? Of the girlfriend? You could probably get one or two more 80 year olds in there than 20 year olds, but... um.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Blackfin Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Page 12 yet?? Put me down for 'as desired'. Oh....and LOP and 2 blade. LOL!! Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Maybe he should have used takeoff flaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncdmtb Posted December 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Maybe he used too much flaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Dave Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Maybe he should have used full flaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS1980 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Or as desired. Dang it! I said I was done. Pulled me back in. I blame peer pressure. Oh, and society. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyPilot Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 In the past I usually didn't use flaps on takeoff. That is the way I was checked out. But I found that the break from the runway is much cleaner when using flaps and they are 100% necessary when taking off hot and heavy unless you have a lot of runway to burn off. Landing I always use full flaps (not really huge anyways) and trim the nose very carefully. I usually fly alone and find myself quite nose heavy so an approach at 85 mph and full nose up trim results in frequent squeakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Lol- I can't believe I missed this thread! I really can't believe it's 12 pages long! Classic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201er Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I've been away 2 weeks and this thread is still going on? I don't understand what there is to discuss!? You're supposed to and it's better to use flaps on every takeoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMuncy Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Oh no! Here we go again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I've been away 2 weeks and this thread is still going on? I don't understand what there is to discuss!? You're supposed to and it's better to use flaps on every takeoff. Welcome back! Things are just like you left them!! Except maybe your parrots. Any new ones, freshly imported from the homeland? If they're in the cockpit and flapping on takeoff, does that help? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Lord! Why am I reading this thread? Because you don't want to miss the post that would put this tread in the ditch again (assuming it was ever out of it)! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMcClure Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 It might be in the ditch because it didn't use flaps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Or maybe it used full flaps and lost control wheelbarrowing down the runway? (Sorry, I can't help myself!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottfromiowa Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 My dad told me 1. Rest your weight on your elbows and 2. The gentleman always finishes last. Those are truisms I can live with. Flaps on takeoff...not so much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMcClure Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Or maybe it used full flaps and lost control wheelbarrowing down the runway? (Sorry, I can't help myself!) You took the bait! Page 13 anyone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marten Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 AUGH! I was hoping to actually find something worth reading. BTW: Just to kick things up a bit. No flap takeoffs are my normal configuration. Use 'em if you need 'em for improved takeoff performance, but nominally loaded on typical runways of 4k or longer I leave the flaps up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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