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They are adding after-market AC, here's a photo of the prototype. Just a few bugs to work out WRT the power cord.

I think if we were to figure out the "per actual IFR approach" cost of these database subscriptions, we'd go back to shooting VOR and ILS approaches using paper charts! I think the GPS approach I shot into ECP for the Summit was the first actual IFR GPS I've done this year. That was a pretty pricey approach. The banner tow plane just ahead of me snuck in with a special VFR clearance, so I really didn't feel that special doing that approach.

One thing I have learned about aviation database subscriptions; they will continue to sell them even if the manufacturer no longer support the box. Der money to be made in dem der boxes! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

My long body is more than 20 years old. It's only digital screen is mono color. That makes it a classic vehicle in most states. In a few more years it will be historic. Bob's M20E is more modern by light years. The reason MS is set up the way it is... 1) Early on, we were short on users, breaking them in half sort of made sense. 2) Later on, One Bravo owner petitioned for a specific M20M user group. 3) So much information shared on MS is independent of what plane it is in. Good luck trying to corral Mooney pilots into specific groups. Some people read all the posts each day. Wouldn't matter how they get split up. Other people have found a way to 'follow' a particular topic or thread. One thing to consider... They all fly through the same air, quickly and efficiently. Welcome to Mooney Sunday, -a-

This is a parts plane , the engine is AD'd out of service , No STC to replace the engine , Not enough of em left to justify creating an STC , and the parts firewall forward are worthless...If I bought one of these new , I would have gone on a tri state killing spree !!!

I was über nerd hacker when I was a teenager on my apple II (pre apple ii plus) which I bought when I was 13 with money I got mowing lawns all summer. 10 lawns I had on my route. Boy it was a hard day after a few days of rain if I had ten lawns to mow. But good money. Now.....Im a grown up nerd! And I train kids to be nerds from around the world, but also from our country. I see really strong and excited budding scientists coming through our program who are home grown, and also from abroad. I work with our future leaders of tech industry every day at my work as a math professor - I am not worried for our future - we got lots of good talent and good work ethic coming through.

Always been curious why the cut over of J's to the modern era? We have essentially just a cleaned up F in a J in a year when what we all consider vintage still being made. Why doesn't the modern era begin with the 231 which really represents a marked difference from what came before. This thread is intended to just cause a discussion and in a little small part annoy J owners :-)

But a J and K or exactly the same except for the engine. You wouldn't separate an Ovation and Bravo. It's a nice easy progression from model to model....that's good for all of us. I think body length is a good way to separate. What would that be: short/mid/long and wood ? Maybe I should have said, what wood that be :-)

I don't think the cards are specific for an individual GTN. You can buy a Garmin Pilot Pak for two GTNs in the same plane and it will update both. We should try it to see what happens... [emoji85][emoji86][emoji87] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I appreciate anyone that does their job well and makes you feel valued. Whether they have a penis or a vagina is really not relevant as I am not looking at them as a sex-object. I appreciate well-trained responsive caring staff that provide a quality customer service experience. Period. I do think my wife is hot though.

I waited a few days. No one is calling you out on this. This remark is sexist and B.S. Peter. You can think whatever you want, but to put this down as an actual belief, just wow. How old are you? Do you have a daughter? When I see attractive young people I think of my daughter and son. I find many people "pretty". One must engage to identify if their beauty is merely skin deep. I find your comment creepy. I guess I am the only one. Here is a hint. Keep this shit to yourself as you will leave others wondering if you are "that guy" instead of confirming it.

I've been there! On a cold day too! Erik is literally on the border to Canada. -Seth

Great news! Emergency is over. Turns out the Jeppesen website, through which I subscribed to the updates, lumped the 150's with the 155's (at least that's how I read it). 150's are VFR only, thus I was pumped the wrong database. If only tech support would have picked up on that Saturday. Sorry for any mass panic I may have incited. Now sitting on my hands.

Having seen both Mena Aircraft painting (Doug Blair) and hawk (Joe Dinolfo) I'd say they look to be comparable quality. Just a hair below the top rated and much more expensive shops, such as Tejas and Murmer, but in the same category. Where I balked was the sanding of the planes in Mena. That's a deal breaker for me. When I told him no abrasives on the plane except Scotch Brite, he added two grand.

Just make sure that you know where the trim disconnect is , If it runs away , you may be strong enough to hold it for maybe ten minutes.....If it is frayed wires coming off of the yokeshaft , it is possible for it to runaway......best to pull the breaker until you diagnose it...

Actually, now that I remember - I brought my son back to college two weeks ago, after fall break, and another kid from town here who goes to the same college - a sophomore physics major. He sat in the copilot seat - so I let him handle the controls a bit. After the flight he said - also I quote - that was COOL - and he said he needs to learn how to fly.

My student just finished her schooling , so I could take her flying,(there is some rule...), all she could say before is I want to go flying ... after the flight all she could say is, and I quote " That is so COOL , I have to lean to fly " and I think she will. I think it is cool ,but I do sleep on commercial airliners. carl

Much better than most I've seen, including any from Mena (sorry).

But now you have this sore finger issue. [emoji12]

"Bored on a Sunday".....obviously

Now the thesis is some kind of rear pressure bulkhead failure. The tail section came down several miles from the forward section. Apparently the plane had significant damage in a 2001 tail strike incidence. Frankly, I wouldn't buy into any of this just yet... It's not in the Russian or Egyptian interest to point to terrorism. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time a rear pressure bulkhead has failed in flight after a repair to fix prior damage. I believe Boeing's policy now is that only Boeing's factory mechanics can fix a pressure bulkhead after JAL fixed one on a 747 that ultimately failed in flight.

darn Ipad auto correct. Yes a little cleaner and a few times can help and about the simplest thing to try.

How bout a graphical cloud layers/tops forcast which they can generate automatically... They have the data, I use the adds flight plan tool to get it now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Wife and I actually had a day off together today so we piled into the plane with the toddler and headed south of Pittsburgh to Ohiopyle and Nemacolin to do some sightseeing along the river. Fun terrain and pretty fall views. On the way I did an ILS practice approach to KLBE's 23. Someone must have been pinging an ADS-B tower around there because I was getting full traffic on the Stratus and it was great. In fact I picked up on a target on foreflight, foreflight gave me an alert, and I already had the traffic in sight by the time ATC called it. Wife was impressed and may let me do avionics work before Dec 2019. It was also fun getting a request from approach to slow down on the ILS for sequence. Our Mooneys are cool like that. It was a great day for GA. Seemed alive for once. At the home drone Rostraver we had one of the Snoopy blimps hanging out on its mooring prior to the steelers game. I saw three different T-36's buzzing around the field doing breaks and generally showing off for no good reason :-). Then a lancair legacy and an RV8 did a more impressive pattern to show up the T36's. There was a amphibian C182 buzzing around, and a beautiful C195 with a great sounding radial engine in addition to the train of C's B's and P's that were flying today. Embarrassing moment. Flew midfield looking for the windsock to try to figure out what the wind was actually up to. Couldn't see it too well but eventually got it. Should have used the giant windsock that is the Snoopy blimp. Doh. My daughter refered to it as big blue dog balloon. Fun stuff. Although I didn't get to install my new LED landing light as I was told I had had enough fun with the mistress, I left the old GE on the entire flight just to see what it's like. Of course I considered myself infinitely more visible. We finished the day with a good lunch at the airport restaurant. Happy Halloween. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

When people ask why there are not more women in aviation, I say for the same reason there are not more men. Most men now days don't want to get down on their knees to check the gas in the gascolator or get their hands dirty with checking the oil. The best line I heard was... When you get old enough to afford flying, you are too old to pass your medical. There is pretty much nothing 2 minute microwave bake about staying current as a pilot and keeping your plane current. People as how is the plane. My response is "Working fine until the next thing breaks"

The 20E is a fine airframe as is. Get to know it before you start cutting aluminum. Besides the funds are best reserved until you're absolutely sure what you've got. I think this is a fine looking bird as is!

its far from perfect in Europe (although I rarely get one as long as the Mooney is running), but long haul has for a long time since moved from "Trolly Dollies" to "Wagon Dragons"

Ok, I'll play. Letter from Mooney, written in my best Nigerian English: I am sending you this leter to make you aware that I am in posesion of a Money Aclaim that was liberated from encampment in Kervill Texus. If you send me $750,000 Us dolars, I will arange for you to recieve this valuable item. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

With all money and effort put into the panel, why not fabricate a new piece of powder coated sheet metal?

Let me try and help you understand: The very definition of "cool" is no longer what it used to be. The progressives have attacked "ALL" that was cool to create their utopian vision of cool. Individual freedom of flight in "dirty" old "rich-man" flying machines have been and continue to be under attack from the left. Children today are not encouraged to entertain themselves with play. They are not told to go out and explore their world independently. They are not told to think for themselves. Not encouraged to make friends. Aviation is the ultimate form of individualism. Freedom and General Aviation go hand in hand. No, children are hearded from one organized/supervised structured event to another. Their time is managed. Their "freedom" is going online and living a world that is cyber where they can be "cool" they can be anonymous. They can be expressive without fear of recrimination. They can fly, kill, be killed explore without fear of reality. They can re-create themselves and be whatever they wish to be... Intoxicating. Why go and wait to "ride" in a real small oily gas burning old plane when they can get "actual" stick time themselves...and shoot others down. Fantasy is BETTER than reality and costs very little from a monetary standpoint or a risk of being judged. Most children will choose an animated world of their creation to the "real world" where what clothes they wear, how they look, speak interact is "judged" by their peers and perhaps found lacking. The world is a difficult place. Friendships and passion require energy and fear of failure. Human beings choose the path of least resistance when push comes to shove. THAT is why geeks now rule the world. THEY are now "cool". Airplanes, sports, reality, not so much.

Maybe he's a visual learner? hmmm, can't paste nothing here. Guess I'll attach it below. It shows up nicely until I Save my post. Well, got it in and it continues to shrink. Wish I could crop it to keep the image large and make the empty space go away . . . Personally, I'm a little vague on geography that far above the Mason Dixon. I can generally find Delaware, it's the little tiny spot outside of Maryland. I have learned right here on Mooneyspace that Delaware is pretty close to NJ, but nobody has yet told me which exit it's closest too. Maybe Erik isn't a country music fan, and has never heard of the band. How about Rock 'n Roll? "Sweet Home Alabama" and we'll just leave Neal Young out of it. No, I'm not from here, just glad to be back close to home [I claim Georgia, but the USMC moved me to a dozen towns before I graduated from high school.] You know, the 96 Olympics, complete with a bombing and a fumbled FBI investigation? Anyway, it's getting dark here really early now, since I'm about 30 miles into the Central Time Zone, so it's time to get Night Current again. But my offer still stands, if Erik can find his way down, I'll take some nice photos, go to ride and put him up for a day or three with all the barbecue he can hold. P.S. for the NJ contingent: "barbecue" is a noun, smoked pork with tomato-and-pepper sauce. In NJ, I am led to believe that "barbecue" is a verb meaning "to cook [any] food on a grill." Sacrilege! Yes, it's possible to barbecue a chicken or piece of beef, but those are called "barbecue chicken" and "barbecue beef".

Sometimes its not the money , but the challenge of being a cheap bastard....That being said , every Mooney I have ever owned , had the Lasar jack tie downs installed.....Its just a great Idea.....

Here's here's the only profile photo I have with me. Thanks, David

Christian, here is a link highlighting the evolution of the venerable M20J. In its core, it is basically the same airplane with some minor peripheral changes over the years. http://www.mooneyevents.com/201hist.xls